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Post by macduff77 on Jun 1, 2023 22:16:53 GMT
I’ve decided to just pre-order the box set from Amazon Canada this time. It’s cheaper, will get here quicker and I won’t have to worry about VAT/Courier expenses and clawbacks. Don’t need the Queenstore exclusive poster.
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Post by deathtoming on Jun 1, 2023 22:24:16 GMT
So he mentioned he "gives us all" so where's the original Star Fleet music video? I'd be happier with a new video featuring Brian May and Friends as marionettes in the style of the TV show, flying ships and blasting lasers, possibly from their guitars like in the Invisible Man video.
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Post by pg on Jun 1, 2023 22:50:03 GMT
If they're on iTunes, they'll be on non-Apple download stores as well.
There's no way this is a big enough release for Apple to even think about demanding exclusivity.
Tidal? Qobuz? HDTracks? 7store? All terms I could Google for you, if I cared enough....
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Post by saintjiub on Jun 2, 2023 0:03:12 GMT
This pisses me off. Yet again we have to buy stuff we don't want (vinyl) to get stuff that we do, thus inflating the cost. Why can't this be like the other two releases, with a 2CD version or a box set? I'm wondering if it would actually be cheaper to buy the Jap 2CD set, than a box set full of useless (to me) tat I'm guessing it's more economical from a production point of view to offer one standard release format (box set) for most of the world. Also, maybe the sales figures of the 2-CD sets weren't great, OR they were a bit too popular and ate into the sales of the more expensive (and perhaps more profitable) box sets? It's hard to say what will be cheaper. The 2-CD set is 3600 JPY before tax, and I don't know how much shipping is to the UK but I think that will be cheaper than the box set if they're priced close to the other two previous sets. Lord ... 3600 JPY is less than $26 USD currently.
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Post by saintjiub on Jun 2, 2023 0:07:58 GMT
On price, the cheaper option isn't particularly a concern - finding a navigable Japanese website that will ship internationally was always the challenge! I managed it a couple of times in the past for a couple of DVDs I think, via HMV.co.jp I would recommend www.cdjapan.co.jp/ which is designed for overseas customers buying Japanese media. They've been around for ages and it's always smooth from start to finish. They are a store with their own stock/warehouse, so you're not paying extra fees to have them do the shopping for you (although they do offer this proxy shopping service for some items). They have a range of shipping options, including cheaper ones through Japan Post, although there are still some restrictions for parts of the world due to flight shortages. Amazon.co.jp is decent when you login from English-speaking countries, although the product descriptions are in Japanese. This can be tricky if there are multiple, similar editions of the same release. Shipping is courier only but you pay the whole cost upfront so don't have to deal with DHL hitting you up for more money before they deliver. A bit of money can also be refunded automatically by Amazon.co.jp if they overestimated the import fees. And as I mentioned earlier, you can see if Amazon UK will have the Japanese editions. The option may appear a few days after the domestic editions show up first. I just checked and saw that they have Japanese SHM-CDs of Roger's Outsider and Outsider Live sold and shipped by Amazon UK. The price is high (probably very similar to importing from Amazon Japan), but at least potential returns are easy. In Canada, you can buy the Japanese Another World SHM-CD deluxe edition sold/shipped by Amazon for $26, which is a dollar cheaper than the North American version! I also saw the Japanese edition of Outsider for a bit over $20 a while ago. Thanks "DtM" for suggesting this link:
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Post by merplot on Jun 2, 2023 1:23:48 GMT
Shit. Is it just me or is this autotuned? =(
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Post by saintjiub on Jun 2, 2023 1:53:20 GMT
Shit. Is it just me or is this autotuned? =( Dunno - I'm too dumb or deaf to notice ...
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Post by deathtoming on Jun 2, 2023 2:07:38 GMT
Here's what the bonus B4 poster from most retailers in Japan will look like: The bonus at Tower Records is an A4 file folder with the same image. Amazon Japan has a "visual sheet" bonus which is basically a poster on thin floppy plastic. My guess is that it will again use this image.
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Post by pg on Jun 2, 2023 6:16:02 GMT
I correct my suggestion that the above should be the single artwork - it can't be if there's no Mandel on it...
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Post by leighburne on Jun 2, 2023 6:19:43 GMT
I correct my suggestion that the above should be the single artwork - it can't be if there's no Mandel on it... There’s no Roger either…
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Post by Brian's Wig on Jun 2, 2023 8:52:12 GMT
Some books aren't meant to be ready linearly, but instead we skim through the pages a couple of times in our lives and then just go back to it to study few selected topics here and there. Funnily enough, your mention of "book" has prompted me to say that the booklet that comes with this is, surprisingly, chock full of text with a handful of photos thrown in! No one should be disappointed. If only as much effort had been put into the BTTL & AW booklets. (And no, I don't have any photos of it to show you)
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Post by Brian's Wig on Jun 2, 2023 8:57:18 GMT
I know no one is forcing me to buy it, but if I want a physical copy of the extra material on the second disc, I've either got to purchase a box set containing vinyl I have no use for, or seek out a Japanese import. At least there IS the Japanese option for this. Alternatively, would you be happy to "break up" the set and sell the vinyl on Ebay? You're bound to get a buyer.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Jun 2, 2023 9:04:26 GMT
I know no one is forcing me to buy it, but if I want a physical copy of the extra material on the second disc, I've either got to purchase a box set containing vinyl I have no use for, or seek out a Japanese import. At least there IS the Japanese option for this. Alternatively, would you be happy to "break up" the set and sell the vinyl on Ebay? You're bound to get a buyer. This was mentioned before. I think it would be worse having an incomplete box set, than not having one at all!
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Post by leighburne on Jun 2, 2023 9:19:20 GMT
The one-disc edition is currently £21.94 on UK Amazon!
I expect (hope!) that’s just a placeholder price, but still… Damn.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Jun 2, 2023 9:30:38 GMT
I've ordered it from CD Japan: www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UICY-16166Unfortunately regular air mail shipping is unavailable so had to pay for it to come via DHL. Total cost (excluding any potential further charges): £37.63.
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Post by leroybrown on Jun 2, 2023 9:50:38 GMT
I've ordered it from CD Japan: www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UICY-16166Unfortunately regular air mail shipping is unavailable so had to pay for it to come via DHL. Total cost (excluding any potential further charges): £37.63. I’ve bought thru CD Japan before when I purchased Outsider with additional tracks and small poster. For anyone thinking of buying thru these people - expect excellent customer service and a well packaged product. I’ll probably buy the Star Fleet set from them myself. Very reliable.
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Post by pg on Jun 2, 2023 9:52:24 GMT
I correct my suggestion that the above should be the single artwork - it can't be if there's no Mandel on it... There’s no Roger either… That's post-production, and more forgivable!
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Post by Lord Fickle on Jun 2, 2023 10:06:02 GMT
I've ordered it from CD Japan: www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UICY-16166Unfortunately regular air mail shipping is unavailable so had to pay for it to come via DHL. Total cost (excluding any potential further charges): £37.63. I’ve bought thru CD Japan before when I purchased Outsider with additional tracks and small poster. For anyone thinking of buying thru these people - expect excellent customer service and a well packaged product. I’ll probably buy the Star Fleet set from them myself. Very reliable. You need to be quick. They only had 15 initial copies left when I ordered.
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Post by jeroeng on Jun 2, 2023 11:21:11 GMT
I’ve bought thru CD Japan before when I purchased Outsider with additional tracks and small poster. For anyone thinking of buying thru these people - expect excellent customer service and a well packaged product. I’ll probably buy the Star Fleet set from them myself. Very reliable. You need to be quick. They only had 15 initial copies left when I ordered. Ordered... 11 left now :-) And indeed service of CD Japan is excellent, I ordered there in the past multiple times.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Jun 2, 2023 11:34:24 GMT
You need to be quick. They only had 15 initial copies left when I ordered. Ordered... 11 left now :-) And indeed service of CD Japan is excellent, I ordered there in the past multiple times. Any idea what they're like for import costs? I've ticked the 'Gift' box, but as the product was valued at over £20, it's likely to incur UK import fees and taxes.
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Post by mow955 on Jun 2, 2023 11:54:32 GMT
On past orders DHL have charged my between 30-33% for the honour of their business
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Post by dragonkiller on Jun 2, 2023 12:04:58 GMT
Ordered... 11 left now :-) And indeed service of CD Japan is excellent, I ordered there in the past multiple times. Any idea what they're like for import costs? I've ticked the 'Gift' box, but as the product was valued at over £20, it's likely to incur UK import fees and taxes. The "gift" option is £32 allowance for the UK, I am not sure if shipping charges are included. Thanks for the link and I bought one. You mentioned "Let Me Out" earlier, I was at the Whitley Bay concert back in 93 and it was played then, and also in other 93 shows. Cozy will definitely be on drums. Be royally pissed off if Sir Bri decides to release the 2CD version outside of Japan now!
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Post by saintjiub on Jun 2, 2023 14:11:49 GMT
I bought it. $53.36 USD total with the cheapest shipping (FedEx) costing more than the CDs.
I rationalize the purchase by remembering that I used to pay up to $30 per bootleg CD ($60 for double live CD) about 20 years ago. It also helps to know that the record label "suits" won't be profiting from the shipping costs (so I will feel less like an ATM buffoon), and that I am paying less than half the price of than the box set (and not buying useless vinyl).
Of course, there is the negative that I am contributing to global warming by producing jet "smog" ... but I have no conscience. LOL
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Post by Arnaldo Ogre- on Jun 2, 2023 14:26:42 GMT
I've ordered it from CD Japan: www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UICY-16166Unfortunately regular air mail shipping is unavailable so had to pay for it to come via DHL. Total cost (excluding any potential further charges): £37.63. Thanks a lot for the link! I ordered mine with airmail and it is below 50 USD, so maybe it won't be taxed here in Brazil. I had totally forgotten about CDJapan. Cheers, Ogre-
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Post by Lord Fickle on Jun 2, 2023 16:43:52 GMT
I bought it. $53.36 USD total with the cheapest shipping (FedEx) costing more than the CDs. I rationalize the purchase by remembering that I used to pay up to $30 per bootleg CD ($60 for double live CD) about 20 years ago. It also helps to know that the record label "suits" won't be profiting from the shipping costs (so I will feel less like an ATM buffoon), and that I am paying less than half the price of than the box set (and not buying useless vinyl). Of course, there is the negative that I am contributing to global warming by producing jet "smog" ... but I have no conscience. LOL I wonder why regular airmail isn't available? Surely it's not still because of the pandemic?
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Post by uglifruit on Jun 2, 2023 17:06:33 GMT
Shit. Is it just me or is this autotuned? =( Dunno - I'm too dumb or deaf to notice ... There's definitely pitch correction on the lead vocal now, from the word go.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Jun 2, 2023 17:15:56 GMT
Dunno - I'm too dumb or deaf to notice ... There's definitely pitch correction on the lead vocal now, from the word go. He didn't record an new vocal, did he? I can't hear whether it's autotuned or not, but it sounds the same as the old vocal to me.
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Post by georg on Jun 2, 2023 17:24:00 GMT
Well I splurged on this one and went with DHL (only because neither airmail options were available). I didn’t bother with the other two boxes, but I figure this one is a suitable birthday gift for myself as both the album and I are celebrating 40 years on this stupid planet this year… (I’ve got Star Fleet beat by three months or so, though!)
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Post by uglifruit on Jun 2, 2023 17:38:14 GMT
There's definitely pitch correction on the lead vocal now, from the word go. He didn't record an new vocal, did he? I can't hear whether it's autotuned or not, but it sounds the same as the old vocal to me. I don't think it's a new vocal take. But it's very different in how note accurate it is. Interesting that this is all new mixes, and the old mixes are just being ignored and quietly forgotten. Unlike BTTL or AW which were just remasters.
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Post by waywardgenius on Jun 2, 2023 18:24:02 GMT
I've ordered it from CD Japan: www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UICY-16166Unfortunately regular air mail shipping is unavailable so had to pay for it to come via DHL. Total cost (excluding any potential further charges): £37.63. I’ve bought thru CD Japan before when I purchased Outsider with additional tracks and small poster. For anyone thinking of buying thru these people - expect excellent customer service and a well packaged product. I’ll probably buy the Star Fleet set from them myself. Very reliable. I fully agree with the comments about CDJapan. I've been buying from them for about 15 years, and they really are a first-class company. Customer service is tremendous, and their products are always securely packaged.
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