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Post by Nicki on Feb 4, 2024 10:40:26 GMT
This new arrangement of Teo Torriatte with both Brian and Adam on lead vocals was beautiful. I‘m just not sure of the order of these snippets. Did they start with the chorus this time and not with the first verse? It sounds to me like Brian started with the chorus on the B-stage with Adam on backing vocals and then Adam sang the verse. 🧐
Adam singing the first verse.
Apparently Brian started on the B-stage. You can hear Brian and Adam and probably the rest of the band as backing vocals.
How it went on:
(I‘m not sure, if everyone can watch these videos from X. I hope that something will show up on YouTube later.)
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Post by Ri on Feb 4, 2024 11:19:19 GMT
Nagoya setlist below spoilers: 1. Machines (intro) 2. Radio Ga Ga 3. Hammer to Fall 4. Another One Bites the Dust 5. I'm In Love with My Car 6. Bicycle Race 7. Fat Bottomed Girls 8. I Want It All 9. Love of My Life 10. Teo Torriatte (new arrangement and Adam sings!) 11. Drum Solo 12. Under Pressure 13. Tie Your Mother Down 14. Crazy Little Thing Called Love 15. I Was Born to Love You 16. Who Wants to Live Forever 17. Guitar Solo 18. Is This the World We Created? 19. A Kind of Magic 20. Killer Queen 21. Don't Stop Me Now 22. Somebody to Love 23. The Show Must Go On 24. Bohemian Rhapsody 25. We Will Rock You 26. Radio Ga Ga (reprise) 27. We Are the Champions
Some of the hits being put out so late is kind of cursed to me it's so weird lol.
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Post by Ri on Feb 4, 2024 11:28:05 GMT
Official rehearsal setlist v2: Actual official setlist:
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Post by Leon's Crazy Game on Feb 4, 2024 11:34:15 GMT
Weird choices again and while I didn't expect anything mindblowing, the song choices are still lame kinda except for the obvious TT being re-added
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Post by Nicki on Feb 4, 2024 11:38:17 GMT
Thank you for the setlist! The timing of the concert could me off-guard today. I didn’t expect it this early today 😂. Although it should have been obvious with Japan being many hours ahead of Europe. So I only saw all the tweets and videos closer to the end of the concert.
So it’s the expected changes and not much new. Although as you mentioned, the order of the songs changed quote a bit. It feels like, after ITTWWC and AKOM, that they decided to play all their greatest of greatest hits one ofter another. But I see, they kept WWTLF before the Guitar Solo this time and didn’t combine it again with TSMGO. This way Adam gets a bit of a pause, which is definitely needed, before the „Greatest Hots Party“ in the last third of the concert. 🤪 And I‘m always envious that Japan gets I Was Born To Love You.
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Post by Nicki on Feb 4, 2024 11:41:02 GMT
Weird choices again and while I didn't expect anything mindblowing, the song choices are still lame kinda except for the obvious TT being re-added I agree, that it’s kinda boring for fans like us, who follow all the tours (at least online). But I’m curious, which choices you think are weird?
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Post by Nicki on Feb 4, 2024 13:56:33 GMT
This is a link to the whole performance of Teo Torriatte from Nagoya. I hope it works. I‘ve seen many comments on X from japanish fans, who really loved it and even started crying.
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Post by Nicki on Feb 4, 2024 20:52:30 GMT
This little official video was just posted by QAL on Queen‘s YT channel. Greatings to the Japanese fans!
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Post by jjmillenium on Feb 4, 2024 21:03:01 GMT
is Seiya behind Brian and Roger?
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Post by Nicki on Feb 4, 2024 21:14:45 GMT
is Seiya behind Brian and Roger? 😂 I think this costume was designed to fit the opening sequence with Machines and Radio Gaga. IMO it looks really cool on stage.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Feb 4, 2024 23:45:54 GMT
This is a link to the whole performance of Teo Torriatte from Nagoya. I hope it works. I‘ve seen many comments on X from japanish fans, who really loved it and even started crying. That's a great arrangement, even using the sample of the backwards gong leading into the "when I'm gone" part. Definitely one of the best things done by Q+AL yet.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Feb 5, 2024 0:29:04 GMT
This is a link to the whole performance of Teo Torriatte from Nagoya. I hope it works. I‘ve seen many comments on X from japanish fans, who really loved it and even started crying. Nice performance! 👍
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Post by Chopin1995 on Feb 5, 2024 15:15:02 GMT
This is a link to the whole performance of Teo Torriatte from Nagoya. I hope it works. I‘ve seen many comments on X from japanish fans, who really loved it and even started crying. Starting at 2:10 Brian is singing the original lower voice harmony just like on the studio recording. Beautiful.
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Post by georg on Feb 5, 2024 15:24:54 GMT
This is a link to the whole performance of Teo Torriatte from Nagoya. I hope it works. I‘ve seen many comments on X from japanish fans, who really loved it and even started crying. Lovely! Is Spike playing a grand piano, or is that just a weird angle and he’s playing his all-encompassing keyboard, the name of which eludes me at the moment?
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Post by Nicki on Feb 5, 2024 15:54:21 GMT
This is a link to the whole performance of Teo Torriatte from Nagoya. I hope it works. I‘ve seen many comments on X from japanish fans, who really loved it and even started crying. Lovely! Is Spike playing a grand piano, or is that just a weird angle and he’s playing his all-encompassing keyboard, the name of which eludes me at the moment? I can‘t tell from this video, but I would be surprised, if Spike wasn’t playing the Korg Nautilus, that he got for the US Tour. This QAL Korg Nautilus does look like a grand piano though, because they wanted it to fit better with the opera-like stage. It’s a big keybord disguised as a grand piano.
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Post by Nicki on Feb 5, 2024 16:39:41 GMT
Lovely! Is Spike playing a grand piano, or is that just a weird angle and he’s playing his all-encompassing keyboard, the name of which eludes me at the moment? I can‘t tell from this video, but I would be surprised, if Spike wasn’t playing the Korg Nautilus, that he got for the US Tour. This QAL Korg Nautilus does look like a grand piano though, because they wanted it to fit better with the opera-like stage. It’s a big keybord disguised as a grand piano. This is what Spikes „grand piano“ looks like with a pair of new Korg Nautilus keyboards. Here you can read an interesting article about his equipment over the years. www.soundonsound.com/people/spike-edney
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Post by Nicki on Feb 5, 2024 20:18:20 GMT
I just watched this quite interesting video from the Nagoya concert . I love to see these little imperfections of a live show and the beginning of Bicycle Race was pretty fucked up. At first the band started with the harmonies a bit out of synch and when the lights turned on the „bicycle“, everyone realized that Adam wasn’t sitting there (as planned). Oops 😬. Adam then hurried to the bike and asked Spike to play the chord again, so that he could go on with the song. I find it interesting, that they didn’t just start over. And the rest of the song seemed to run smoothly.
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Post by Nicki on Feb 5, 2024 20:48:05 GMT
I Was Born To Love You from Nagoya. I love that song and wish they wouldn’t just play it in Japan. The video isn’t the best, but the sound is quite good and it shows a5 least a bit of how huuuge that venue is.
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Post by Nicki on Feb 5, 2024 22:17:35 GMT
Brian wrote this today (on social media and brianmay.com): He wrote that the big Dome (and the arrangement of the seats with an estimated gap of 10 meters between the stage and the first row?) made it very hard for him to perceive any audience reactions, so that he wasn’t sure, if they connected or not. When I saw the video above and read Brian’s impression, then I‘m glad, that I experienced these concerts in smaller venues.
Also: Does anybody here know, why they had „ almost horizontal spotlight beams directly in our eyes“? Didn’t they notice the bad angle of the spotlights during rehearsals?
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Post by Ri on Feb 6, 2024 3:40:32 GMT
From Spike's Instagram about how they slide around their setlist:
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Post by Nicki on Feb 6, 2024 10:54:36 GMT
^ Interesting. So they planned to include IWTBF at first. Then they dropped it and used the giant mirror ball for IWBTLY instead. 😁 And TSMGO is standing all alone and gets shuffled as needed. Or dropped, if Adam‘s voice isn’t up to it on the day. I would love to know their thinking behind some of the setlist decisions.
When I look at the (posted earlier in this thread) setlists, then I can see, that after the (last) rehearsal V2 they only changed the spot for TSMGO. It was moved from somewhere near the end to the spot after the guitar solo and Is This The World We Created. It’s astonishing, how much this song gets thrown around and at the end it often comes back right after the guitar solo. Maybe because they think it would fit better somewhere else, but then Adam can handle that beast of a song best after the break for his voice during the guitar solo? However, I believe that every fan, who actually gets to hear this song live during their concerts can call themselves lucky.
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Post by eiricd on Feb 6, 2024 12:16:54 GMT
I just watched this quite interesting video from the Nagoya concert . I love to see these little imperfections of a live show and the beginning of Bicycle Race was pretty fucked up. At first the band started with the harmonies a bit out of synch and when the lights turned on the „bicycle“, everyone realized that Adam wasn’t sitting there (as planned). Oops 😬. Adam then hurried to the bike and asked Spike to play the chord again, so that he could go on with the song. I find it interesting, that they didn’t just start over. And the rest of the song seemed to run smoothly. I like to see things like this. Shows that it's live, and that's what it's all about.
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Post by vh on Feb 6, 2024 16:05:37 GMT
Brian wrote this today (on social media and brianmay.com): He wrote that the big Dome (and the arrangement of the seats with an estimated gap of 10 meters between the stage and the first row?) made it very hard for him to perceive any audience reactions, so that he wasn’t sure, if they connected or not. When I saw the video above and read Brian’s impression, then I‘m glad, that I experienced these concerts in smaller venues. Also: Does anybody here know, why they had „ almost horizontal spotlight beams directly in our eyes“? Didn’t they notice the bad angle of the spotlights during rehearsals? The positioning of the spot lights is part design and part and to venue constrictions. Spots at the back of an arena are much closer to the stage than compared to a stadium so the beams are steeper. At a stadium because of the distance the spots are more likely to catch the performers sight lines. There are many points in a show where, because of darker lit staging, with spots picking out a certain performer their view of an audience could be like looking into a dark void. So Brian’s comment about the distance to the front row combined with the effect of the spot lights is perfectly justified.
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Post by Nicki on Feb 6, 2024 16:43:52 GMT
Brian wrote this today (on social media and brianmay.com): He wrote that the big Dome (and the arrangement of the seats with an estimated gap of 10 meters between the stage and the first row?) made it very hard for him to perceive any audience reactions, so that he wasn’t sure, if they connected or not. When I saw the video above and read Brian’s impression, then I‘m glad, that I experienced these concerts in smaller venues. Also: Does anybody here know, why they had „ almost horizontal spotlight beams directly in our eyes“? Didn’t they notice the bad angle of the spotlights during rehearsals? The positioning of the spot lights is part design and part and to venue constrictions. Spots at the back of an arena are much closer to the stage than compared to a stadium so the beams are steeper. At a stadium because of the distance the spots are more likely to catch the performers sight lines. There are many points in a show where, because of darker lit staging, with spots picking out a certain performer their view of an audience could be like looking into a dark void. So Brian’s comment about the distance to the front row combined with the effect of the spot lights is perfectly justified. Thank you for your explanation. So it’s possibly the unusual size of these domes, which are essentially stadiums, that caused the problem? Of course I don’t doubt Brian‘s words. I‘ve been on stage in a theater myself and couldn’t see much of the audience, because I was blinded by the spotlights. I was just surprised about that problem, because they did their stage rehearsals there for 2 days and they had even played that dome in 2020 with that same stage already.So I would have thought that they had noticed this issue before. But every night is different and of course there was no audience during rehearsals. I think they will somehow resolve the problem (or try to) in the next dome in Osaka. By the way: This video shows the soundcheck in the Nagoya Dome in 2020. Here you can see the venue in daylight.
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Post by vh on Feb 6, 2024 20:45:05 GMT
The positioning of the spot lights is part design and part and to venue constrictions. Spots at the back of an arena are much closer to the stage than compared to a stadium so the beams are steeper. At a stadium because of the distance the spots are more likely to catch the performers sight lines. There are many points in a show where, because of darker lit staging, with spots picking out a certain performer their view of an audience could be like looking into a dark void. So Brian’s comment about the distance to the front row combined with the effect of the spot lights is perfectly justified. Thank you for your explanation. So it’s possibly the unusual size of these domes, which are essentially stadiums, that caused the problem? Of course I don’t doubt Brian‘s words. I‘ve been on stage in a theater myself and couldn’t see much of the audience, because I was blinded by the spotlights. I was just surprised about that problem, because they did their stage rehearsals there for 2 days and they had even played that dome in 2020 with that same stage already.So I would have thought that they had noticed this issue before. But every night is different and of course there was no audience during rehearsals. I think they will somehow resolve the problem (or try to) in the next dome in Osaka. By the way: This video shows the soundcheck in the Nagoya Dome in 2020. Here you can see the venue in daylight. I’m guessing that the distance of the audience made Brian more aware of not seeing them clearly because of the spot light situation. Very often during production rehearsals spot lights are not included in the rehearsal. Colour changing for the spots is called by the lighting director and sometimes operated remotely. The spots themselves are normally controlled by local crew members at each venue so there is no point rehearsing them as it’s different people at each venue. The que’s used are standard through the industry. Because of that any perceived problem with the spots may have only become notable during the show and only at certain points.
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Post by Nicki on Feb 6, 2024 21:48:35 GMT
Thank you for your explanation. So it’s possibly the unusual size of these domes, which are essentially stadiums, that caused the problem? Of course I don’t doubt Brian‘s words. I‘ve been on stage in a theater myself and couldn’t see much of the audience, because I was blinded by the spotlights. I was just surprised about that problem, because they did their stage rehearsals there for 2 days and they had even played that dome in 2020 with that same stage already.So I would have thought that they had noticed this issue before. But every night is different and of course there was no audience during rehearsals. I think they will somehow resolve the problem (or try to) in the next dome in Osaka. By the way: This video shows the soundcheck in the Nagoya Dome in 2020. Here you can see the venue in daylight. I’m guessing that the distance of the audience made Brian more aware of not seeing them clearly because of the spot light situation. Very often during production rehearsals spot lights are not included in the rehearsal. Colour changing for the spots is called by the lighting director and sometimes operated remotely. The spots themselves are normally controlled by local crew members at each venue so there is no point rehearsing them as it’s different people at each venue. The que’s used are standard through the industry. Because of that any perceived problem with the spots may have only become notable during the show and only at certain points. Thanks again for the explanation. Do you know, if QAL always uses spots that are operated by crew members (local or not)? I ask, because from what I‘ve seen and what I was told during a Backstage Tour with the stage manager Andy is, that both Brian and Adam are automatically followed by the spots, because they have little antennas inside their stage clothes. I found this pretty cool, but I think it was 2018, when this became tricky, because Adam was wearing an additional golden cloak during the encore, so that the antenna didn’t work during one concert. Adam was singing in the dark, until a crew member came on stage and took the cloak from Adam, and suddenly the light went on.
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Post by vh on Feb 7, 2024 0:46:48 GMT
I’m guessing that the distance of the audience made Brian more aware of not seeing them clearly because of the spot light situation. Very often during production rehearsals spot lights are not included in the rehearsal. Colour changing for the spots is called by the lighting director and sometimes operated remotely. The spots themselves are normally controlled by local crew members at each venue so there is no point rehearsing them as it’s different people at each venue. The que’s used are standard through the industry. Because of that any perceived problem with the spots may have only become notable during the show and only at certain points. Thanks again for the explanation. Do you know, if QAL always uses spots that are operated by crew members (local or not)? I ask, because from what I‘ve seen and what I was told during a Backstage Tour with the stage manager Andy is, that both Brian and Adam are automatically followed by the spots, because they have little antennas inside their stage clothes. I found this pretty cool, but I think it was 2018, when this became tricky, because Adam was wearing an additional golden cloak during the encore, so that the antenna didn’t work during one concert. Adam was singing in the dark, until a crew member came on stage and took the cloak from Adam, and suddenly the light went on. Yes that’s right. The Black Track system. You can set the system to follow any number of people on stage as long as they have a small transmitter that sends out a code to the control system. In the Queen rig they employ Clay Paky Scenius Unicio lighting units in conjunction with Black Tracks system. These lamps are uni directional and can be remotely focused to give a hard or soft edged beam together with a multi coloured menu. These lamps have an aperture that will go from a lazer thin beam to a full wide focus flood. They make up the bulk of the over head and down stage lighting and are the lights you are talking about, being used as both colour washes and spots. They are what give the performance that broad colour scope and the over head spots. Any long throw spots that light the band member from behind the audience are standard follow spot units and are always manned by local crew.
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Post by Ri on Feb 7, 2024 11:58:05 GMT
Setlist in Osaka below spoiler tag. They made some changes at the beginning and took out more songs: 1. Machines (intro) 2. Radio Ga Ga 3. Hammer to Fall 4. Fat Bottomed Girls 5. Another One Bites The Dust 6. I'm In Love With My Car 7. Bicycle Race 8. I Was Born To Love You 9. I Want It All 10. Love of My Life 11. Teo Teorriatte 12. Drum Solo 13. Under Pressure 14. Tie Your Mother Down 15. Crazy Little Thing Called Love 16. Who Wants to Live Forever 17. Guitar Solo 18. Is This the World We Created? 19. A Kind of Magic 20. Don't Stop Me Now 21. Somebody to Love 22. The Show Must Go On 23. Bohemian Rhapsody 24. We Will Rock You 25. Radio Ga Ga (reprise) 26. We Are the Champions
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Post by Nicki on Feb 7, 2024 12:07:13 GMT
Thanks again for the explanation. Do you know, if QAL always uses spots that are operated by crew members (local or not)? I ask, because from what I‘ve seen and what I was told during a Backstage Tour with the stage manager Andy is, that both Brian and Adam are automatically followed by the spots, because they have little antennas inside their stage clothes. I found this pretty cool, but I think it was 2018, when this became tricky, because Adam was wearing an additional golden cloak during the encore, so that the antenna didn’t work during one concert. Adam was singing in the dark, until a crew member came on stage and took the cloak from Adam, and suddenly the light went on. Yes that’s right. The Black Track system. You can set the system to follow any number of people on stage as long as they have a small transmitter that sends out a code to the control system. In the Queen rig they employ Clay Paky Scenius Unicio lighting units in conjunction with Black Tracks system. These lamps are uni directional and can be remotely focused to give a hard or soft edged beam together with a multi coloured menu. These lamps have an aperture that will go from a lazer thin beam to a full wide focus flood. They make up the bulk of the over head and down stage lighting and are the lights you are talking about, being used as both colour washes and spots. They are what give the performance that broad colour scope and the over head spots. Any long throw spots that light the band member from behind the audience are standard follow spot units and are always manned by local crew. That’s really interesting! I just went back to look at all my pictures from the concerts that I attended in 2022, because I don’t remember any spot lights coming from behind the audience at all. So I looked at my pictures taken from one of the Opera Boxes on stage and there it LOOKS like there were 2 spotlights coming from somewhere behind the audience. But when I look at my pictures from other nights and venues from different perspectives, then there are non. Now after a closer search, it seems even these spot lights were coming from a rig hanging in the middle of the arena? It’s visible in this picture. So it appears to me that QAL don’t use spot lights from behind the audience, when they’re playing „regular“ arenas? While the band was on the Main Stage all spot lights were coming from the rig above the stage, mostly from the lower backside of the round screen. It’s actually really fascinating how many lights there are all over the stage! Most are somehow hidden when you look at it from the front.
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Post by vh on Feb 7, 2024 12:30:08 GMT
Yes that’s right. The Black Track system. You can set the system to follow any number of people on stage as long as they have a small transmitter that sends out a code to the control system. In the Queen rig they employ Clay Paky Scenius Unicio lighting units in conjunction with Black Tracks system. These lamps are uni directional and can be remotely focused to give a hard or soft edged beam together with a multi coloured menu. These lamps have an aperture that will go from a lazer thin beam to a full wide focus flood. They make up the bulk of the over head and down stage lighting and are the lights you are talking about, being used as both colour washes and spots. They are what give the performance that broad colour scope and the over head spots. Any long throw spots that light the band member from behind the audience are standard follow spot units and are always manned by local crew. That’s really interesting! I just went back to look at all my pictures from the concerts that I attended in 2022, because I don’t remember any spot lights coming from behind the audience at all. So I looked at my pictures taken from one of the Opera Boxes on stage and there it LOOKS like there were 2 spotlights coming from somewhere behind the audience. But when I look at my pictures from other nights and venues from different perspectives, then there are non. Now after a closer search, it seems even these spot lights were coming from a rig hanging in the middle of the arena? It’s visible in this picture. So it appears to me that QAL don’t use spot lights from behind the audience, when they’re playing „regular“ arenas? While the band was on the Main Stage all spot lights were coming from the rig above the stage, mostly from the lower backside of the round screen. It’s actually really fascinating how many lights there are all over the stage! Most are somehow hidden when you look at it from the front. What a brilliant photo. That’s really interesting, normally they would use between four and six “house spots”. I can’t think of another large scale tour that doesn’t use them, although I’m sure there might be one or two now as lighting and production designers keep a close eye on each other’s work and quick to note how well ideas work!
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