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Post by merplot on Feb 10, 2024 10:53:51 GMT
Brian has always seemed to get really sentimental about Japan, and was supposedly crying onstage during the Works! tour dates there in '84 '85. Where did you read that ? But it wouldn't surprise me - the band was almost certainly on the verge of breaking up at that point. Live Aid changed everything for them. Youre right, it was '85, my bad. I translated a Japanese fan's account of the Japanese tour here: queenchat.boards.net/thread/4539/translation-japanese-fanzine-1985"I didn't see it, but according to other witnesses, Brian was crying onstage at Nagoya and Osaka. According to a member of the Mutual Aid Society [which is what this group of fans called themselves], it seemed that 'Brian was the only one who was immersed in sentiment and memories of when he first came to Japan.'"
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Post by greatsoundingmaracas on Feb 10, 2024 11:29:26 GMT
I don't know if this is worth a new thread, because I might be onto absolutely nothing here, but I noticed something while clicking through videos from the Japanese concerts. It seems that YouTube's content-ID system recognizes songs from a live album that doesn't exist. These songs are labeled as being from an album called "Live at the Xcel Energy Center, 2023". This happens on videos from last year's North American tour as well, so I wonder if there's a live album coming?
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Post by Lord Fickle on Feb 10, 2024 11:35:59 GMT
I don't know if this is worth a new thread, because I might be onto absolutely nothing here, but I noticed something while clicking through videos from the Japanese concerts. It seems that YouTube's content-ID system recognizes songs from a live album that doesn't exist. These songs are labeled as being from an album called "Live at the Xcel Energy Center, 2023". This happens on videos from last year's North American tour as well, so I wonder if there's a live album coming? It probably isn't worth a new thread until there's something more concrete.
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Post by Ri on Feb 10, 2024 12:10:52 GMT
Sapporo setlist under spoiler tag: 1. Machines (intro) 2. Radio Ga Ga 3. Hammer to Fall 4. Fat Bottomed Girls 5. Another One Bites the Dust 6. I'm In Love With My Car 7. Bicycle Race 8. I Was Born to Love You 9. I Want It All 10. Love of My Life 11. Teo Torriatte 12. Drum Solo 13. Under Pressure 14. Tie Your Mother Down 15. Crazy Little Thing Called Love 16. Who Wants to Live Forever 17. Guitar Solo 18. Is This the World We Created? 19. A Kind of Magic 20. Don't Stop Me Now 21. Somebody to Love 22. The Show Must Go On 23. Bohemian Rhapsody 24. We Will Rock You 25. Radio Ga Ga (reprise) 26. We Are the Champions
EDIT: Deleted the "rehearsal setlist" tweet, it doesn't say it's Sapporo.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Feb 10, 2024 22:34:22 GMT
'85. Where did you read that ? But it wouldn't surprise me - the band was almost certainly on the verge of breaking up at that point. Live Aid changed everything for them. I think Live Aid is myth ,Queen wanted to continue ,according to Music Life interview in 1985 , (posted here queenchat.boards.net/thread/1602/queen-japanese-interview-translations?page=4). John says twice that they are going to the studio in November 1985 and change producer. That was during Japanese Tour before Live Aid. Interviews are usually for PR, and thus should be taken with a pinch of salt. Things are stated for all kinds of reasons, usually because people don't want their internal drama to be public, and more generally to not reveal any more than needs to be revealed. For the record - November came true, but the change of producers didn't. Mack hung around through 1986, although David Richards' role started to become more pronounced. Of course we can never know what would've happened had it not been for Live Aid - that's in the realm of alternate history. But things behind the scenes in the Queen camp were not good during the Works tour, and we cannot underestimate the effect that 20 minute set had on them and their relationships with each other.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Feb 10, 2024 22:50:15 GMT
'85. Where did you read that ? But it wouldn't surprise me - the band was almost certainly on the verge of breaking up at that point. Live Aid changed everything for them. Youre right, it was '85, my bad. I translated a Japanese fan's account of the Japanese tour here: queenchat.boards.net/thread/4539/translation-japanese-fanzine-1985"I didn't see it, but according to other witnesses, Brian was crying onstage at Nagoya and Osaka. According to a member of the Mutual Aid Society [which is what this group of fans called themselves], it seemed that 'Brian was the only one who was immersed in sentiment and memories of when he first came to Japan.'" And knows what else was going on in his mind. Very revealing quote there. It makes sense to me. Freddie's mind was on his solo album (to be kind), Roger was enjoying being a rich rock star, and John was already starting to mentally check out of the music business by that point (his DUI from crashing his Porsche didn't help). Brian was probably feeling isolated from the other guys on a lot of levels and feeling reflective, perhaps thinking it may be the last time they tour a place they loved so much. There's a good reason why he'd forgotten that they'd ever done It's A Hard Life live (as stated during a 2010 performance) - it was only done on this tour, and this was not a good period in their history with much that was worth remembering.
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Post by Dimitris on Feb 11, 2024 8:46:08 GMT
Whatever was going into the band , alternative reality or whatever Live Aid actermath was, one thing was for sure. Queen had major contract with EMI - Capitol. They were clever enough and had good manager not to stop, by breaking up they should have to pay back for not delivering the three remaining studio albums (plus one optional) and one live. That was their 1981-1991 contract.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Feb 11, 2024 16:36:21 GMT
Whatever was going into the band , alternative reality or whatever Live Aid actermath was, one thing was for sure. Queen had major contract with EMI - Capitol. They were clever enough and had good manager not to stop, by breaking up they should have to pay back for not delivering the three remaining studio albums (plus one optional) and one live. That was their 1981-1991 contract. I don't think that existing contracts matter that much in the grand scheme of things. if someone wants out, then they leave or a band splits. Music history is peppered with bands that split midway through recording/touring contracts - sometimes both. Take The Beatles as an example: You may not know this but...During a band meeting at Apple on 20 September 1969, Lennon told McCartney & Starr he had decided to leave, saying he (Lennon) wanted a "divorce". This despite the band having signed (the very same day) a renegotiated contract with Capitol. The sensitivity of the new contract resulted in Klein asking Lennon to keep his announcement secret - Lennon did exactly that.
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Post by Dimitris on Feb 11, 2024 19:35:54 GMT
Whatever was going into the band , alternative reality or whatever Live Aid actermath was, one thing was for sure. Queen had major contract with EMI - Capitol. They were clever enough and had good manager not to stop, by breaking up they should have to pay back for not delivering the three remaining studio albums (plus one optional) and one live. That was their 1981-1991 contract. I don't think that existing contracts matter that much in the grand scheme of things. if someone wants out, then they leave or a band splits. Music history is peppered with bands that split midway through recording/touring contracts - sometimes both. Take The Beatles as an example: You may not know this but...During a band meeting at Apple on 20 September 1969, Lennon told McCartney & Starr he had decided to leave, saying he (Lennon) wanted a "divorce". This despite the band having signed (the very same day) a renegotiated contract with Capitol. The sensitivity of the new contract resulted in Klein asking Lennon to keep his announcement secret - Lennon did exactly that. It depends what are the clauses, Queen when splited up with John Reid, they signed to give him 15% from future royalties up to FG. Same for Elektra records split up in 1983. Queen bought their way out 2 millions dollars. Also Elektra hold their back catalogue. So it is not the same, The Beatles had apple records, they could deliver any product to any Major label, if the offer was good. In case of Queen ,EMI brought them out of Trident situation, invest money and continue to invest. Their first contract was 9 studio albums plus live. Emi didn't want to loose. Same goes for the next decade. MIH was the optional album of 1981-91 contract. When a contract expires record companies usually release a best of album, sometimes a double live album is released instead of studio. Queen discography has all the examples.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Feb 11, 2024 23:08:07 GMT
I don't think that existing contracts matter that much in the grand scheme of things. if someone wants out, then they leave or a band splits. Music history is peppered with bands that split midway through recording/touring contracts - sometimes both. Take The Beatles as an example: You may not know this but...During a band meeting at Apple on 20 September 1969, Lennon told McCartney & Starr he had decided to leave, saying he (Lennon) wanted a "divorce". This despite the band having signed (the very same day) a renegotiated contract with Capitol. The sensitivity of the new contract resulted in Klein asking Lennon to keep his announcement secret - Lennon did exactly that. It depends what are the clauses, Queen when splited up with John Reid, they signed to give him 15% from future royalties up to FG. Same for Elektra records split up in 1983. Queen bought their way out 2 millions dollars. Also Elektra hold their back catalogue. So it is not the same, The Beatles had apple records, they could deliver any product to any Major label, if the offer was good. In case of Queen ,EMI brought them out of Trident situation, invest money and continue to invest. Their first contract was 9 studio albums plus live. Emi didn't want to loose. Same goes for the next decade. MIH was the optional album of 1981-91 contract. When a contract expires record companies usually release a best of album, sometimes a double live album is released instead of studio. Queen discography has all the examples. sorry, but you need to do a fact-check here. you have to know the history of what went on with the Beatles and why McCartney walked away when he did - this was all down to Klein - the manager Lennon and Harrison loved - who promised them the earth and everything in it. Clue: it's NOTHING to do with Apple. I've highlighted the relevant section for you.
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Post by Dimitris on Feb 12, 2024 13:19:06 GMT
It depends what are the clauses, Queen when splited up with John Reid, they signed to give him 15% from future royalties up to FG. Same for Elektra records split up in 1983. Queen bought their way out 2 millions dollars. Also Elektra hold their back catalogue. So it is not the same, The Beatles had apple records, they could deliver any product to any Major label, if the offer was good. In case of Queen ,EMI brought them out of Trident situation, invest money and continue to invest. Their first contract was 9 studio albums plus live. Emi didn't want to loose. Same goes for the next decade. MIH was the optional album of 1981-91 contract. When a contract expires record companies usually release a best of album, sometimes a double live album is released instead of studio. Queen discography has all the examples. sorry, but you need to do a fact-check here. you have to know the history of what went on with the Beatles and why McCartney walked away when he did - this was all down to Klein - the manager Lennon and Harrison loved - who promised them the earth and everything in it. Clue: it's NOTHING to do with Apple. I've highlighted the relevant section for you. Yeah, The Beatles case is different and I didn't know it well. In mid -late 90s Hollywood records had major problems Queen were about to found a solution with their contract even to stopped it. Another case of Queen and how they avoid breaking contracts is the 2000-2010 EMI contract. Queen especially Roger wanted to leave EMI by 2003. Same in 2007. The profit and the clauses in any contract are major factors for breaking or not.
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Post by Ri on Feb 13, 2024 11:47:44 GMT
Setlist Tokyo #1. No change since Osaka and Sapporo so no spoiler tags. RIP to Killer Queen...
1. Machines (intro) 2. Radio Ga Ga 3. Hammer to Fall 4. Fat Bottomed Girls 5. Another One Bites The Dust 6. I'm In Love With My Car 7. Bicycle Race 8. I Was Born To Love You 9. I Want It All 10. Love of My Life 11. Teo Teorriatte 12. Drum Solo 13. Under Pressure 14. Tie Your Mother Down 15. Crazy Little Thing Called Love 16. Who Wants to Live Forever 17. Guitar Solo 18. Is This the World We Created? 19. A Kind of Magic 20. Don't Stop Me Now 21. Somebody to Love 22. The Show Must Go On 23. Bohemian Rhapsody 24. We Will Rock You 25. Radio Ga Ga (reprise) 26. We Are the Champions
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Post by thesirhc on Feb 15, 2024 2:19:48 GMT
Brain said they were going to perform ITTWWC at a different spot on the stage. Where did that end up being?
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Post by Nicki on Feb 15, 2024 18:28:08 GMT
Brain said they were going to perform ITTWWC at a different spot on the stage. Where did that end up being? From what I‘ve seen on YT, they performed it from the center of the main stage on the 2nd night in Tokyo.
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Post by eiricd on Feb 16, 2024 16:40:23 GMT
any reports of filming on a bigger scale than usual?
I'm still quite baffled by the fact that the only official live document of Qal is the cut n paste job that is "live around the world"
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Post by Nicki on Feb 16, 2024 16:57:48 GMT
any reports of filming on a bigger scale than usual? I'm still quite baffled by the fact that the only official live document of Qal is the cut n paste job that is "live around the world" I haven’t seen or heard anything about a possible filming this tour or the US tour. But Queen could quite easily release the shows from London 2018 or London 2022. 2018 they had possibly the biggest pro film crew and equipment and they filmed 2 shows. Then 2022 was offered as a live stream. Then probably Sydney 2014 or somewhere in England 2015 (I don’t remember the city), Las Vegas 2017 (or was that 2018?). Or actually they could release every damn show, because they have all their live shows filmed by 8 or so different cameras and all the material gets shelved (I was told).
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Post by akirafish on Feb 16, 2024 17:01:57 GMT
At one point, Adam paused the concert to take over and display a fan-made banner. This is posted on the official x account. Is it professional recorded? There are camera cuts. link
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Post by greatsoundingmaracas on Feb 16, 2024 17:13:51 GMT
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Post by Lord Fickle on Feb 16, 2024 17:16:38 GMT
any reports of filming on a bigger scale than usual? I'm still quite baffled by the fact that the only official live document of Qal is the cut n paste job that is "live around the world" Yes, you'd have thought something would have come out by now. Knowing QPL's propensity to take the easy route, surely the live streamed concert from London would be an obvious choice?
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Post by Nicki on Feb 16, 2024 18:48:51 GMT
At one point, Adam paused the concert to take over and display a fan-made banner. This is posted on the official x account. Is it professional recorded? There are camera cuts. linkAs I mentioned above, they’re filming every single show with about 8 different cameras. That’s the footage for the live screens on stage during the show, but it’s also all saved. One of these cameras, a „huge handheld“, is carried around the thrust and B-stage by one of the videographers. He’s always standing right in front of or beside the B-stage, whenever the guys are there. That’s the one, which filmed this scene.
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Post by vh on Feb 16, 2024 18:58:14 GMT
any reports of filming on a bigger scale than usual? I'm still quite baffled by the fact that the only official live document of Qal is the cut n paste job that is "live around the world" Yes, you'd have thought something would have come out by now. Knowing QPL's propensity to take the easy route, surely the live streamed concert from London would be an obvious choice? I really thought the O2 stream would end up as a DVD release with extras like interviews or behind the scenes footage a bit like the Q+PR Super Live In Japan DVD. They filmed the Wembley load in, so I wonder if there was a plan to release something but a decision was made not too. It makes little sense as this is the most successful world wide live run they’ve had since the 1980’s and the current show would probably translate to film really well.
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Post by eiricd on Feb 17, 2024 18:04:25 GMT
Live around the world was a lazy compilation, where the London tracks were the best looking in terms of quality and editing. Strange that they didn't "just" release the complete thing.
Thinking about it now, what a treat to have 3 QPR live dvds in 4 years. (a shame there's no blu ray, but....)
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Post by deathtoming on Apr 28, 2024 0:03:29 GMT
Glay, the opening act at QAL's Sapporo show, is releasing four of their songs from that live set on a CD called "whodunit" to be released May 29th. There will be two other songs unrelated to that show. Also, they will release a CD+DVD edition, and the DVD will have a documentary that includes some footage from their Sapporo show.
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Post by boffy on Apr 29, 2024 15:34:23 GMT
any reports of filming on a bigger scale than usual? I'm still quite baffled by the fact that the only official live document of Qal is the cut n paste job that is "live around the world" Are you not counting the 2014 Live in Japan DVD/Blu because they’re Japan-only and/or out-of-print?
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Post by Lord Fickle on Apr 29, 2024 15:45:54 GMT
any reports of filming on a bigger scale than usual? I'm still quite baffled by the fact that the only official live document of Qal is the cut n paste job that is "live around the world" Are you not counting the 2014 Live in Japan DVD/Blu because they’re Japan-only and/or out-of-print? They've toured on a much bigger scale since then. I too am surprised there hasn't been a worldwide Q+AL live Bluray release, especially considering they have one film that we know about, 'in the can', and ready to go.
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Post by Ri on Apr 29, 2024 16:31:53 GMT
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