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Post by ted on Feb 12, 2021 18:04:06 GMT
It doesn’t make much sense to me that this would be released on its own. It’s going to be of dubious technical quality and presumably less than stellar performance quality. Surely it will be released with at least one other product, presumably another concert. Queen I 50th Anniversary? That would certainly make sense to me. The downside is that we'll have to wait 2+ years for it.
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Post by pimderks on Feb 12, 2021 18:46:52 GMT
Can you imagine?
Queen: 50th anniversary deluxe edition
- Remastered edition of the album
- Bonus disc with De Lane Lea demos + BBC sessions
- Bonus disc with rarities/demos/outtakes/b-sides (Mad The Swine, Liar 7" edit)
- Live 1970 CD
- The debut on 2x45RPM purple vinyl
- Replica of De Lane Lea acetate/demo
- Replica of KYA 7" with bonus sleeves (Dutch version, Japanese version, etc.)
- Hardback book with new interviews, replicas of posters/flyers/setlists/handwritten lyrics etc
But we'll probably get one track on a reissue of the 2011 remaster. With vocals flown in from live shows years later on.
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Post by Frank on Feb 12, 2021 19:02:32 GMT
But we'll probably get one track on a reissue of the 2011 remaster. With vocals flown in from live shows years later on. Yep. Lol |
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Post by Lord Fickle on Feb 12, 2021 19:27:54 GMT
But we'll probably get one track on a reissue of the 2011 remaster. With vocals flown in from live shows years later on. Yeah, probably Adam. 😄 |
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Post by Jake12 on Feb 12, 2021 19:41:11 GMT
i get that the boys can’t tour right now and i’m sure it’s killing them that they can’t but we know the history with QPL with milking out the product for months and months and again it’s now the middle of February and they’re still now milking out ‘Around The World’ and i feel like this will continue since people can’t see them this year. i hope and plea that this isn’t the case and they do release something. Greg has mentioned the book once again but nothing else.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Feb 12, 2021 19:42:52 GMT
heard on 102.3 The Wolf today, that Roger was saying they've (Q+AL) been recording a few more studio bits n pieces.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Feb 12, 2021 20:23:04 GMT
i get that the boys can’t tour right now and i’m sure it’s killing them that they can’t but we know the history with QPL with milking out the product for months and months and again it’s now the middle of February and they’re still now milking out ‘Around The World’ and i feel like this will continue since people can’t see them this year. i hope and plea that this isn’t the case and they do release something. Greg has mentioned the book once again but nothing else. And, of course, we're still waiting for The Miracle box set. 🙄 |
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Post by Lord Fickle on Feb 12, 2021 20:24:33 GMT
heard on 102.3 The Wolf today, that Roger was saying they've (Q+AL) been recording a few more studio bits n pieces. It must be quite easy for them as they probably don't even need to leave their homes! |
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Post by Raf on Feb 12, 2021 21:29:58 GMT
heard on 102.3 The Wolf today, that Roger was saying they've (Q+AL) been recording a few more studio bits n pieces. I hope I won't be murdered for saying this here, on this forum and on this thread, but that could be good news. I'd like to hear new Queen music. I enjoyed the Queen version of Ghost Town. Of course I'd love to get some old concerts. But between what we've got (some weird-ass copy-and-paste frankenstein monster of a live QAL release featuring a bunch of bits we'd already seen a million times on YouTube and TV shows) and the possibility of getting actual new stuff... I just hope this time they won't do like they did in 2008, when they released Cosmos Rocks, did some half-assed promotion (Live Around the World has gotten so much more attention from them!), toured exactly once to promote it and then spent the rest of their lives not talking about it and acting like it never happened. Unless it really really really sucks. In that case, I'll pretend it never happened too  |
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Post by Frank on Feb 12, 2021 21:35:58 GMT
heard on 102.3 The Wolf today, that Roger was saying they've (Q+AL) been recording a few more studio bits n pieces. I hope I won't be murdered for saying this here, on this forum and on this thread, but that could be good news. I'd like to hear new Queen music. I enjoyed the Queen version of Ghost Town. Of course I'd love to get some old concerts. But between what we've got (some weird-ass copy-and-paste frankenstein monster of a live QAL release featuring a bunch of bits we'd already seen a million times on YouTube and TV shows) and the possibility of getting actual new stuff... I just hope this time they won't do like they did in 2008, when they released Cosmos Rocks, did some half-assed promotion (Live Around the World has gotten so much more attention from them!), toured exactly once to promote it and then spent the rest of their lives not talking about it and acting like it never happened. Unless it really really really sucks. In that case, I'll pretend it never happened too I agree with you! If true, this is excellent news. I want them to record an album and then promote the hell out of it. And if I could have it my way, there'd be tracks with Adam, but also a few tracks featuring Freddie. There has to be stuff we don't know about it. Maybe not enough for a whole album, but maybe enough for a feature on a Q+AL record. |
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Post by velizar on Feb 12, 2021 21:46:54 GMT
There is one thing I don't get.
Why can't QPL release just ONE new song with unheard vocals by Freddie? Just one (like they previously did with LMIYHA). I understand that the unreleased material may not be too good, but there definitely IS at least one proper recording, which would suit for a non-album single.
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Feb 12, 2021 22:08:06 GMT
There is one thing I don't get. Why can't QPL release just ONE new song with unheard vocals by Freddie? Just one (like they previously did with LMIYHA). I understand that the unreleased material may not be too good, but there definitely IS at least one proper recording, which would suit for a non-album single. playing Devil's Advocate here: Everything (and I mean everything) in the archives will require some volume of commitment/work to get it up to release-worthy standard. Now, stop and think how much of an effort the MIH album was to work on...time/energy/creativity - all this, when they were actually focused on "signing off" on Freddie's legacy. Fast forward 25 yrs: Factor in the two facts: Nobody makes money out of recordings these days and why would perfectionists revisit stuff they never deemed worthwhile when it was fresh and new (let alone old/dusty/stale), so why the f**k bother at all? I'm not saying that studio releases won't happen, but there's no real impetus/encouragement for doing so - not when live gigs actually generate the only real income these days. |
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Post by Lord Fickle on Feb 12, 2021 22:15:36 GMT
What I find funny is that they say, as in the case of LMIYHA, something like "we found an old tape down the back of a knicker draw, but this really is all there is...", then a few years later, another old tape turns up from somewhere. I'm pretty sure the archives are probably much more organised than that, and they know exactly what they've got.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Feb 12, 2021 22:17:41 GMT
There is one thing I don't get. Why can't QPL release just ONE new song with unheard vocals by Freddie? Just one (like they previously did with LMIYHA). I understand that the unreleased material may not be too good, but there definitely IS at least one proper recording, which would suit for a non-album single. I'm not saying that studio releases won't happen, but there's no real impetus/encouragement for doing so - not when live gigs actually generate the only real income these days. But now they haven't got live gigs for the foreseeable future, we might be lucky in that they decide to top up their pension pots in other ways. |
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Post by Frank on Feb 12, 2021 22:38:48 GMT
There is one thing I don't get. Why can't QPL release just ONE new song with unheard vocals by Freddie? Just one (like they previously did with LMIYHA). I understand that the unreleased material may not be too good, but there definitely IS at least one proper recording, which would suit for a non-album single. playing Devil's Advocate here: Everything (and I mean everything) in the archives will require some volume of commitment/work to get it up to release-worthy standard. Now, stop and think how much of an effort the MIH album was to work on...time/energy/creativity - all this, when they were actually focused on "signing off" on Freddie's legacy. Fast forward 25 yrs: Factor in the two facts: Nobody makes money out of recordings these days and why would perfectionists revisit stuff they never deemed worthwhile when it was fresh and new (let alone old/dusty/stale), so why the f**k bother at all? I'm not saying that studio releases won't happen, but there's no real impetus/encouragement for doing so - not when live gigs actually generate the only real income these days. You raise excellent points. I suppose we hope they have heart and want to do something nice for the fans (especially since it's their 50th). But alas, I shall not hold my breath. I'll die first. |
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Feb 12, 2021 22:41:05 GMT
I'm not saying that studio releases won't happen, but there's no real impetus/encouragement for doing so - not when live gigs actually generate the only real income these days. But now they haven't got live gigs for the foreseeable future, we might be lucky in that they decide to top up their pension pots in other ways. fingers crossed...but not holding my breath. let's face it - if they (somehow) find more (unheard) live recordings from the last few years, then that'll be the 2021 release. |
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Post by soxtalon on Feb 13, 2021 2:43:14 GMT
I hope it happens but let's face it people. Touring and even recording with Adam Lambert is all they think about these days. Press releases and other info confirms it. I would kill for an early Queen gig to be released and although Brian confirmed he found one of them i don't expect a release. What concerns me the most is that Roger don't like to look back on their career and some people even think they will pass on this 50th anniversary milestone. I for one would not be surprised. But hey, the year is still young and since they can't tour maybe, just maybe we will get something special. I hear you. And I'm not even against Q+AL being active right now. I just think it's a crying shame Bri and Rog don't want to celebrate their 50th anniversary. It doesn't make sense. Their 40th was celebrated with a remastering of 15 studio albums with a few goodies (frustrating there wasn't more). Surely their 50th deserves more than what they're giving us right now. And frankly, releasing this one concert wouldn't be sufficient. Give us the damn Miracle box set at least. To be fair - the 40th coincided with them jumping ship to a new label and everything needed to be re-released on the new label anyways....I don't think they really cared much about the anniversary |
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Post by pg on Feb 13, 2021 8:33:40 GMT
Additional information from Total Guitar magazine...
The tape as found has a series of dropouts and is distorted in places, but has been worked on in ProTools by Kris Frederikson to clean it up.
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Now, I'm sure KF has worked on many recordings that have subsequently not been released, but I doubt there's been much that he worked on that wasn't being CONSIDERED for release.
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Post by Frank on Feb 13, 2021 12:46:22 GMT
I hear you. And I'm not even against Q+AL being active right now. I just think it's a crying shame Bri and Rog don't want to celebrate their 50th anniversary. It doesn't make sense. Their 40th was celebrated with a remastering of 15 studio albums with a few goodies (frustrating there wasn't more). Surely their 50th deserves more than what they're giving us right now. And frankly, releasing this one concert wouldn't be sufficient. Give us the damn Miracle box set at least. To be fair - the 40th coincided with them jumping ship to a new label and everything needed to be re-released on the new label anyways....I don't think they really cared much about the anniversary True. I just wish they'd care more. I'm happy they can still feel relevant as a touring machine. God knows I feel incredibly lucky to have the opportunity to see my heroes perform (wasn't lucky enough to be around when Freddie was touring). So I feel weird about complaining, but given the current situation, surely they could do something to mark the occasion. At this point, I think I'd settle for a 50th anniversary Queen umbrella. Anything! Lol |
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Post by Lord Fickle on Feb 13, 2021 13:55:35 GMT
At this point, I think I'd settle for a 50th anniversary Queen umbrella. Anything! Lol At least that would have a point! 😄 |
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Feb 13, 2021 13:58:29 GMT
At this point, I think I'd settle for a 50th anniversary Queen umbrella. Anything! Lol At least that would have a point! 😄 you're here all week?  Additional information from Total Guitar magazine... The tape as found has a series of dropouts and is distorted in places, but has been worked on in ProTools by Kris Frederikson to clean it up. ‐---‐------------- Now, I'm sure KF has worked on many recordings that have subsequently not been released, but I doubt there's been much that he worked on that wasn't being CONSIDERED for release. well, if their considerations ultimately decide it's NOT good enough to release, then why don't they put it up for free download? now that would be a 50th birthday prez to the fans |
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Post by Lord Fickle on Feb 13, 2021 14:07:52 GMT
They could easily release a 50th anniversary rare cuts box set, things like the concert they found, pieces like the under pressure version with brians vocals, good quality demos, eg sail away sweet sister, a blu ray of the innuendo videos. But why do that when they can spread them across re-releases of the whole catalogue so that we have to buy them all yet again! 🙄 |
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Post by Frank on Feb 13, 2021 15:08:46 GMT
Ah yes, not forgetting a wembley re release. Well overdue... Shhhhhhhhhh...before someone important hears you.  |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Feb 14, 2021 2:14:56 GMT
It doesn’t make much sense to me that this would be released on its own. It’s going to be of dubious technical quality and presumably less than stellar performance quality. Surely it will be released with at least one other product, presumably another concert. A digital only release is always a possibility too. |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Feb 14, 2021 2:22:32 GMT
There is one thing I don't get. Why can't QPL release just ONE new song with unheard vocals by Freddie? Just one (like they previously did with LMIYHA). I understand that the unreleased material may not be too good, but there definitely IS at least one proper recording, which would suit for a non-album single. Because they've scraped the barrel dry. After the Made In Heaven album they've put out Feelings Feelings and Let Me In Your Heart Again - that's probably about all there is worth releasing. We've heard a bunch of outtakes beyond that, and most of them remain unreleased for one simple reason - they weren't very good.
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Post by Frank on Feb 14, 2021 2:30:32 GMT
It doesn’t make much sense to me that this would be released on its own. It’s going to be of dubious technical quality and presumably less than stellar performance quality. Surely it will be released with at least one other product, presumably another concert. A digital only release is always a possibility too. And it would make sense given the current condition the world is in (won't have to worry about producing a physical product). You know what, I'd be happy with it too. It's at least something to mark 50 years. |
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Post by Frank on Feb 14, 2021 2:32:12 GMT
There is one thing I don't get. Why can't QPL release just ONE new song with unheard vocals by Freddie? Just one (like they previously did with LMIYHA). I understand that the unreleased material may not be too good, but there definitely IS at least one proper recording, which would suit for a non-album single. Because they've scraped the barrel dry.
After the Made In Heaven album they've put out Feelings Feelings and Let Me In Your Heart Again - that's probably about all there is worth releasing.
We've heard a bunch of outtakes beyond that, and most of them remain unreleased for one simple reason - they weren't very good.
It's a shame. I think I speak for a lot of Queen fans when I say I want unrestricted access to absolutely everything. Queen at their worst is still a treasure to my ears. |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Feb 14, 2021 2:35:01 GMT
Additional information from Total Guitar magazine... The tape as found has a series of dropouts and is distorted in places, but has been worked on in ProTools by Kris Frederikson to clean it up. Disappointing but unsurprising, as they and their tech(s) were young and probably had little experience with recording gear.
So maybe they'd release just a few songs from it - better than nothing.
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Post by Golden Salmon on Feb 14, 2021 12:52:44 GMT
There is one thing I don't get. Why can't QPL release just ONE new song with unheard vocals by Freddie? Just one (like they previously did with LMIYHA). I understand that the unreleased material may not be too good, but there definitely IS at least one proper recording, which would suit for a non-album single. Because they've scraped the barrel dry. After the Made In Heaven album they've put out Feelings Feelings and Let Me In Your Heart Again - that's probably about all there is worth releasing. We've heard a bunch of outtakes beyond that, and most of them remain unreleased for one simple reason - they weren't very good. I know that, in the end, Brian and Roger have the final word but I refuse to believe that they're not worth releasing. They just choose not to. As stated by Brian a year before releasing Queen Forever: 2013-11-28: Queen find more Freddie Mercury demos than originally thoughtI am sure the potential anthologies, even if they only released like 3 CDs worth of demos / versions spanning their whole career, would feature some amazing gems. I am not even talking about them becoming a new album per se, but they are not keen on doing that anyway. |
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Post by The Real Wizard on Feb 15, 2021 2:12:44 GMT
Demos can be extremely rough - most of them are incomplete ideas captured on a mono cassette recorder at 3am. They aren't going to release those.
But of course that's not what the article is referring to. The writer just doesn't know the difference between a demo and a proper studio take done to 24-track tape.
This is from 2013. "A few tracks" isn't much - and LMIYHA was clearly the best of the bunch. I doubt we'll hear the rest.
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