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Post by dane on Jul 9, 2024 7:53:26 GMT
I paste here the last John Antony's Facebook post about his interview with Brian and Roger. He talks about an "upcoming definitive boxset". Who knows... "Had the most heartwarming and heartfelt 5 hour lunch with Brian and Roger They really reiterated how grateful they were and how much they valued my input, intelligence and my absolute conviction that they were going to ... Why would QPL not have John Anthony sign an NDA (non disclosure agreement) when involving him in the project? This is so strange. Or, maybe they did, and he just doesnt care, in which case, he's not being very professional and somewhat disrespectful and could very well be (one of) the reason(s) that said interview on May 1st was canceled. |
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Post by disco_mart on Jul 11, 2024 21:20:34 GMT
I paste here the last John Antony's Facebook post about his interview with Brian and Roger. He talks about an "upcoming definitive boxset". Who knows... "Had the most heartwarming and heartfelt 5 hour lunch with Brian and Roger They really reiterated how grateful they were and how much they valued my input, intelligence and my absolute conviction that they were going to ... Why would QPL not have John Anthony sign an NDA (non disclosure agreement) when involving him in the project? This is so strange. Or, maybe they did, and he just doesnt care, in which case, he's not being very professional and somewhat disrespectful and could very well be (one of) the reason(s) that said interview on May 1st was canceled. He's probably so old now that he doesn't even know what a NDA is. |
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Post by pg on Jul 12, 2024 7:11:37 GMT
probably so old now that he doesn't even know what a NDA is. Old people are out of touch, wa hey!!! Hilarious..... |
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Post by Ben on Jul 14, 2024 11:21:02 GMT
It's such a terrible shame that Queen cares so little about their loyal fans from the early days. I would be thrilled if they released unknown live concerts. Instead, we're drowning in a sea of merchandise and clothing. I can totally see them skipping the 50th anniversary of ANATO and offering packages with the black wig Freddie wore during the IWTBF video instead.
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Post by creepy on Aug 18, 2024 10:54:07 GMT
It's such a terrible shame that Queen cares so little about their loyal fans from the early days. I would be thrilled if they released unknown live concerts. Instead, we're drowning in a sea of merchandise and clothing. I can totally see them skipping the 50th anniversary of ANATO and offering packages with the black wig Freddie wore during the IWTBF video instead. Queen has released very interesting albums over the last 10 years. The problem is that there are many "fans" who do not value it properly. They listen to the new release (or download it illegally) and the next day they say..........well, when is the next thing going to be released? Why have they published this and not the other? That's the problem. Before, when you couldn't have all the music at the click of a button, a record was appreciated and valued, not now. Now you are saying that in 2025 they are going to publish Freddie's wig when 2 years ago a box set like "The miracle" was released, which included 6 unreleased songs and a CD with recordings never heard before. It seems to me that some of you should reflect on this issue. Kind regards. |
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Post by vh on Aug 18, 2024 17:29:27 GMT
It's such a terrible shame that Queen cares so little about their loyal fans from the early days. I would be thrilled if they released unknown live concerts. Instead, we're drowning in a sea of merchandise and clothing. I can totally see them skipping the 50th anniversary of ANATO and offering packages with the black wig Freddie wore during the IWTBF video instead. Queen has released very interesting albums over the last 10 years. The problem is that there are many "fans" who do not value it properly. They listen to the new release (or download it illegally) and the next day they say..........well, when is the next thing going to be released? Why have they published this and not the other? That's the problem. Before, when you couldn't have all the music at the click of a button, a record was appreciated and valued, not now. Now you are saying that in 2025 they are going to publish Freddie's wig when 2 years ago a box set like "The miracle" was released, which included 6 unreleased songs and a CD with recordings never heard before. It seems to me that some of you should reflect on this issue. Kind regards. I think the problem is that we are all aware of other artists releasing far better product than Queen. The Miracle Box set was great, but The News Of The World was, in many ways, lacking. A number of anniversaries have been missed for some great albums and there’s no official word on anything being released soon. Add to this the rumour mill that the archivest fuels with no results and things don’t look so great. |
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Aug 18, 2024 18:01:07 GMT
There is no true 12" mix. The one you refer to, was on a 90s US cd compilation. There is however an illegal Peace in the Middle East mix on 12" which lasts over 6 minutes. yep. FWIR the official 12" version was 10secs shorter than the 7" I forgot to post this at the time  |
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Post by creepy on Aug 18, 2024 19:05:16 GMT
Queen has released very interesting albums over the last 10 years. The problem is that there are many "fans" who do not value it properly. They listen to the new release (or download it illegally) and the next day they say..........well, when is the next thing going to be released? Why have they published this and not the other? That's the problem. Before, when you couldn't have all the music at the click of a button, a record was appreciated and valued, not now. Now you are saying that in 2025 they are going to publish Freddie's wig when 2 years ago a box set like "The miracle" was released, which included 6 unreleased songs and a CD with recordings never heard before. It seems to me that some of you should reflect on this issue. Kind regards. I think the problem is that we are all aware of other artists releasing far better product than Queen. The Miracle Box set was great, but The News Of The World was, in many ways, lacking. A number of anniversaries have been missed for some great albums and there’s no official word on anything being released soon. Add to this the rumour mill that the archivest fuels with no results and things don’t look so great. I don't think it's the most correct thing to compare releases from some artists with others because we don't know the available archive that each one has. Didn't you like the News of the world box? I loved it. A CD was included with unreleased recordings, with gems that no one expected like "All dead, all dead" and "Sleeping of the sidewalk." And, also, a one-hour documentary with unpublished footage from the time. I think it was a great launch. I guess now you're going to tell me, why didn't they include the Houston concert? If they had included the Houston concert, would it have seemed like a good release to you? I don't think so, it wouldn't have seemed like a good pitch to you. Surely you would be saying: why was the documentary 1 hour long if they had several hours of footage? And why didn't they include the UK or Germany or "X" concert? And why didn't they include more songs from the recording sessions? Complaints like these ad infinitum. I would tell you to enjoy what you have, instead of regretting what you don't have. Kind regards. |
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Post by vh on Aug 18, 2024 20:01:15 GMT
I think the problem is that we are all aware of other artists releasing far better product than Queen. The Miracle Box set was great, but The News Of The World was, in many ways, lacking. A number of anniversaries have been missed for some great albums and there’s no official word on anything being released soon. Add to this the rumour mill that the archivest fuels with no results and things don’t look so great. I don't think it's the most correct thing to compare releases from some artists with others because we don't know the available archive that each one has. Didn't you like the News of the world box? I loved it. A CD was included with unreleased recordings, with gems that no one expected like "All dead, all dead" and "Sleeping of the sidewalk." And, also, a one-hour documentary with unpublished footage from the time. I think it was a great launch. I guess now you're going to tell me, why didn't they include the Houston concert? If they had included the Houston concert, would it have seemed like a good release to you? I don't think so, it wouldn't have seemed like a good pitch to you. Surely you would be saying: why was the documentary 1 hour long if they had several hours of footage? And why didn't they include the UK or Germany or "X" concert? And why didn't they include more songs from the recording sessions? Complaints like these ad infinitum. I would tell you to enjoy what you have, instead of regretting what you don't have. Kind regards. Well surly having put together such a comprehensive box set the inclusion of a gig from the News Of The World tour would have been a good choice, especially since the documentary features the band at rehearsals for the tour. Just because there are more choices than have been offered doesn’t make it wrong to wish for more. I have never said I didn’t enjoy any particular release, just that there could be more and maybe better choices. And as I said what about all the other stuff through the years that’s been teased or even fallen by the wayside as certain anniversaries have passed. By the way stop telling me what I’m complaining about when I clearly haven’t. Think what you like, but your thoughts are not mine and are nothing that I’ve posted. |
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Post by leighburne on Aug 18, 2024 20:13:41 GMT
I guess now you're going to tell me, why didn't they include the Houston concert? If they had included the Houston concert, would it have seemed like a good release to you? Not putting a live show in that box was a bit of a piss-take, if you ask me. Stuff like that is the bread and butter of these box sets. |
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Post by creepy on Aug 18, 2024 21:15:14 GMT
I guess now you're going to tell me, why didn't they include the Houston concert? If they had included the Houston concert, would it have seemed like a good release to you? Not putting a live show in that box was a bit of a piss-take, if you ask me. Stuff like that is the bread and butter of these box sets. From my point of view, the reason why the Houston concert was not included in the box set is because the audiovisual material that Queen has is scarce and will be released individually at some point. We must not forget that this is a business. If they had several concerts recorded from that tour, I have no doubt that some would have been included in the box set. However, no one should feel cheated. The contents of the box are known before it is put up for sale. |
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Post by vh on Aug 18, 2024 21:22:31 GMT
Not putting a live show in that box was a bit of a piss-take, if you ask me. Stuff like that is the bread and butter of these box sets. From my point of view, the reason why the Houston concert was not included in the box set is because the audiovisual material that Queen has is scarce and will be released individually at some point. We must not forget that this is a business. If they had several concerts recorded from that tour, I have no doubt that some would have been included in the box set. However, no one should feel cheated. The contents of the box are known before it is put up for sale. The only person using the word cheated is you. |
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Post by NathanH on Aug 18, 2024 21:36:03 GMT
I think there's been some very valid points on here, my take of it is whatever new box set or album is released, some fans won't be happy. I was 13 when Live At The Rainbow '74 (2014) was released, and I loved that and I'm sure 90% of anyone who listened to the album or watched the video did too. Even if I think that overall that is the best thing to come since 2011, some will say auto correction or poor image quality. I was young when I listened to it for the first time admittedly I didn't notice the auto correction and even now I can listen to it without noticing, only if I really concentrate as to my ears it's not noticeable. And I'm sure I can't be the only one.
My point is, my generation aren't that interested in alternative versions or live versions of songs. They like streaming Queen songs, buying Q+AL tickets and purchasing merchandise - all big money earners. Don't get me wrong I'll buy the box sets when they are released but the fact is, I've become a fan after Queen haven't been productive so I'm used to the cycle. You've got the loyal fans like on here who dream of anthologies and concert releases, but now the market of younger fans has increased massively since the biopic and I feel that's changed their business strategy.
An additional concert on a box set won't increase the buyers market, all it will do is raise the retail price and decrease the target audience. I'm sure they will one day release old concerts but right now any Queen branded t-shirt probably makes more money than a vinyl copy of A Night At The Opera so that's what they will stick to.
I don't want to sound rude or anything, but Queen is a "business" and their loyal fan base on the face of it are not the target audience. Some fans will buy whatever they produce as proven by re-releases of Greatest Hits.
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Post by gooddrills on Aug 18, 2024 22:15:17 GMT
I think there's been some very valid points on here, my take of it is whatever new box set or album is released, some fans won't be happy. I was 13 when Live At The Rainbow '74 (2014) was released, and I loved that and I'm sure 90% of anyone who listened to the album or watched the video did too. Even if I think that overall that is the best thing to come since 2011, some will say auto correction or poor image quality. I was young when I listened to it for the first time admittedly I didn't notice the auto correction and even now I can listen to it without noticing, only if I really concentrate as to my ears it's not noticeable. And I'm sure I can't be the only one. My point is, my generation aren't that interested in alternative versions or live versions of songs. They like streaming Queen songs, buying Q+AL tickets and purchasing merchandise - all big money earners. Don't get me wrong I'll buy the box sets when they are released but the fact is, I've become a fan after Queen haven't been productive so I'm used to the cycle. You've got the loyal fans like on here who dream of anthologies and concert releases, but now the market of younger fans has increased massively since the biopic and I feel that's changed their business strategy. An additional concert on a box set won't increase the buyers market, all it will do is raise the retail price and decrease the target audience. I'm sure they will one day release old concerts but right now any Queen branded t-shirt probably makes more money than a vinyl copy of A Night At The Opera so that's what they will stick to. I don't want to sound rude or anything, but Queen is a "business" and their loyal fan base on the face of it are not the target audience. Some fans will buy whatever they produce as proven by re-releases of Greatest Hits. It’s quite refreshing to hear the perspective of a ‘now’ fan from a younger generation. I found that to be a well balanced response. Other bands are putting out more comprehensive releases but that’s just not what Queen Productions do. We do get some nice little treats and surprises along the way though and I’m sure we’ll see plenty more in time. As a band and a business Queen continue to do exceptionally well and remain popular and appealing to a broad range of people. I have dreamed of an anthology release for years but I accept what we have, it’s really not all bad. I quite like the fact that we haven’t had everything, it leaves something to look forward to 😊 |
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Post by vh on Aug 18, 2024 22:15:49 GMT
I loved the Rainbow release, it was an unexpected bonus in a way. I’m certainly not looking for perfection in any live release, I just enjoy the fact that live material is released.
As for unreleased/alternative versions or different mixes, I’m aware that the audience for those is smaller than the mass market Greatest hits target but surely with so many other bands releasing older material there has to be a market that makes it worthwhile.
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Post by disco_mart on Aug 18, 2024 22:24:47 GMT
Not putting a live show in that box was a bit of a piss-take, if you ask me. Stuff like that is the bread and butter of these box sets. From my point of view, the reason why the Houston concert was not included in the box set is because the audiovisual material that Queen has is scarce and will be released individually at some point. We must not forget that this is a business. If they had several concerts recorded from that tour, I have no doubt that some would have been included in the box set. However, no one should feel cheated. The contents of the box are known before it is put up for sale. You are right but those fans around in the early days are well into their 70s and even 80s now. If things like that gig don't come out soon, a big proportion of those who would actually go out and buy physical copies instead of stream it (audio and video) will have passed on. I bet you any money the most valuable Queen fans spending power-wise, are those who were fans when Freddie was around. Most people under 30 do not buy anything anymore, even vinyl and their days as a touring band must be close to over now too. That will be the end of the revenue pot from younger people. |
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Post by NathanH on Aug 19, 2024 14:33:48 GMT
I think there's been some very valid points on here, my take of it is whatever new box set or album is released, some fans won't be happy. I was 13 when Live At The Rainbow '74 (2014) was released, and I loved that and I'm sure 90% of anyone who listened to the album or watched the video did too. Even if I think that overall that is the best thing to come since 2011, some will say auto correction or poor image quality. I was young when I listened to it for the first time admittedly I didn't notice the auto correction and even now I can listen to it without noticing, only if I really concentrate as to my ears it's not noticeable. And I'm sure I can't be the only one. My point is, my generation aren't that interested in alternative versions or live versions of songs. They like streaming Queen songs, buying Q+AL tickets and purchasing merchandise - all big money earners. Don't get me wrong I'll buy the box sets when they are released but the fact is, I've become a fan after Queen haven't been productive so I'm used to the cycle. You've got the loyal fans like on here who dream of anthologies and concert releases, but now the market of younger fans has increased massively since the biopic and I feel that's changed their business strategy. An additional concert on a box set won't increase the buyers market, all it will do is raise the retail price and decrease the target audience. I'm sure they will one day release old concerts but right now any Queen branded t-shirt probably makes more money than a vinyl copy of A Night At The Opera so that's what they will stick to. I don't want to sound rude or anything, but Queen is a "business" and their loyal fan base on the face of it are not the target audience. Some fans will buy whatever they produce as proven by re-releases of Greatest Hits. It’s quite refreshing to hear the perspective of a ‘now’ fan from a younger generation. I found that to be a well balanced response. Other bands are putting out more comprehensive releases but that’s just not what Queen Productions do. We do get some nice little treats and surprises along the way though and I’m sure we’ll see plenty more in time. As a band and a business Queen continue to do exceptionally well and remain popular and appealing to a broad range of people. I have dreamed of an anthology release for years but I accept what we have, it’s really not all bad. I quite like the fact that we haven’t had everything, it leaves something to look forward to 😊 I do think Queen have been very clever how they've done their releases. The Brian May phrase "deafen 'em, blind 'em, leaving them wanting more!" springs to mind when discussing this. The band certainly don't rush any of their releases. Look at Fleetwood Mac box sets, the first one Rumours was released in 2013, Tusk followed in 2015, Mirage in 2016 and the '75 and Tango In The Night albums in 2017. They're good releases, lots of unheard content on them, with random live recordings compiled (so not necessarily full concerts). If Queen copied the format, then perfect. But my point is that they did their five big albums within four years of each other before they became huge with younger people due to the infamous TikTok in 2020. They didn't have anything new to promote around that time so all the attention went to their last compilation album or Rumours which is still the case now. They have kind of ran out of spectacular things to sell now to maximise on the bigger market. They're starting to release new live albums on CD and vinyl, but to me they're mediocre releases, they only appeal to loyal fans. They can't release anything new from Rumours, by far their biggest album because they did that eleven years ago. Queen certainly have avoided this problem. (The Beatles' box sets now are great but once they've done them, you kind of feel that's it. There's no more for them to do.) Queen will always have a big audience, it really is going down the generations. Come another 50 years I'm sure they will still be demand even when inevitably the band and loyal fans from the start will have passed on. They can release whatever as it will still appeal to the masses. You've got to keep the younger generations happy so having music on Spotify, and allowing usage on TikTok, films and TV will guarantee there will be target audiences in the future for releases. For this reason, them selling the catalogue makes sense. |
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Post by jjmillenium on Aug 26, 2024 13:49:33 GMT
Some "inside" info. I have a friend who is a producer here in Spain. One of his best friend is a big boss here on Universal Spain. I asked him if there's any info of a new release of Queen. And he said that there's a box set of Queen first album. But, he said something that really make me feel sad... he said that on the box there will be the remaster of 2011, the new mix, but also material from Rainbow 1974. On his own words: I see a lots of things that was already released... so, yeah, that's a typical release of Queen Productions, so it seems to be legit
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Post by ted on Aug 26, 2024 17:16:01 GMT
^^ Including Rainbow '74 footage in a box set of Queen's 1st album would be great if it was the entire (hopefully) existing footage of their March concert that year, though it would make more sense including it in a QII box.
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Post by jjmillenium on Aug 26, 2024 17:36:11 GMT
well, We all know Queen Productions, and it is clear that what they will do is put songs from the existing Rainbow release on the disc that will carry the 'extras' (just as they did in the NOTW box). On that cd they will include the 6 songs from the bonus CD from the 2011 release and songs from Rainbow and other existing live shows, and BBC sessions
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Post by Dimitris on Aug 26, 2024 18:15:01 GMT
There is not Queen productions anymore, plus very small chances for anything unreleased up to 2026.
Everything will go to Sony in 2026-2027 including record distribution etc.
So we have to wait. Easy if you are a Queen fan for the last 30+++ years.
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Post by vh on Aug 26, 2024 21:25:43 GMT
There is not Queen productions anymore. . . . Yes there is. Queen Productions is still current. |
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Post by manymilesaway on Aug 26, 2024 22:12:54 GMT
Some "inside" info. I have a friend who is a producer here in Spain. One of his best friend is a big boss here on Universal Spain. I asked him if there's any info of a new release of Queen. And he said that there's a box set of Queen first album. But, he said something that really make me feel sad... he said that on the box there will be the remaster of 2011, the new mix, but also material from Rainbow 1974. On his own words: I see a lots of things that was already released... so, yeah, that's a typical release of Queen Productions, so it seems to be legit Of course this is just a rumour, but sadly I wouldn't be surprised at all if this were the case. The News Of The World boxset didn't even come with Houston '77, a completely filmed show of one of their best tours. It's even less likely that they'd do something like Imperial College '70, before they were a refined act. My ideal Queen I boxset (AKA Delusions of a dreamer): -The new mix (PLEASE, please a Dolby Atmos version??) -Instrumentals based on the new mixes. -De Lane Lea demos remixed (If they have multitracks for a remix of The Night Comes Down, I'm going to guess that they have the rest.) -Early/Alternate takes (Like the Great King Rat " Take 1" and " Take 4" that have been brought to conventions.) -Imperial College 1970 live concert with Roger and Brian commentary. -Blu-Ray footage of all available Queen I music videos (Both versions of Liar and KYA) with TASTEFUL remasters. None of that AI crap used for The Miracle boxset. |
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Post by funinspace81 on Aug 27, 2024 11:20:46 GMT
Imperial College / Polar Bear / Hangman / Silver Salmon / Mad The Swine original mix + live persion would be awesome, but we are talking about Queen releases here.
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Post by Brian's Wig on Aug 27, 2024 13:02:35 GMT
If there's no surround sound mix to go with the new remix, then I think we can safely assume that Queen simply aren't interested in surround sound anymore.
I hope they DON'T put the De Lane Lea demos in this set, but I guess it's inevitable, just like the 2011 remaster will be included.
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Post by funinspace81 on Aug 27, 2024 13:14:52 GMT
If there's no surround sound mix to go with the new remix, then I think we can safely assume that Queen simply aren't interested in surround sound anymore. I hope they DON'T put the De Lane Lea demos in this set, but I guess it's inevitable, just like the 2011 remaster will be included. I think that unfortunately we'll get a lot of repeated stuff like BBC tracks, De Lane demos and live versions from common releases, although Great King Rat from the 1984 tour would be cool, but pretty unlikely. |
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Post by cmi on Aug 27, 2024 13:16:38 GMT
If there's no surround sound mix to go with the new remix, then I think we can safely assume that Queen simply aren't interested in surround sound anymore. I hope they DON'T put the De Lane Lea demos in this set, but I guess it's inevitable, just like the 2011 remaster will be included. Well, if De Lane Lea tracks received the REMIX treatment, than they are very welcome in the new set. Otherwise it's another waste of space with previously released stuff on the new product. Also, there's a veeeery small possibility that alternate versions of November 1974 Rainbow tracks will be used as a feature, not the old ones from 2014 set... |
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Post by Dimitris on Aug 27, 2024 13:57:34 GMT
Imperial College / Polar Bear / Hangman / Silver Salmon / Mad The Swine original mix + live persion would be awesome, but we are talking about Queen releases here. If the info is true, I believe that is the only time that Queen are keeping remaining good stuff for Sony. Its not their fault. Universal is in the "state" of EMI releases in 2008-2010, little bit recycle. I can't imagine Sony to be compromised, if Universal is going release unheard material, the sales are on the first weeks. Moreover it is not easy for Queen not to open their archive for Sony future releases. Just needs time for Univesal contract to expire. Why Sony didn't buy it out is another story. |
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Post by leighburne on Aug 27, 2024 14:06:43 GMT
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