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Post by pg on Nov 30, 2023 7:06:43 GMT
Montreal has been released about 5 times already, and the prospect of a further release gives you a good feeling???
I'm joking - as I said elsewhere, Montreal on a really big screen is an opportunity to be taken, and there's no other Freddie footage that can be endlessly rescanned into 8K, 16K as time goes on.
But isn't the IMAX stuff actually taking place next year? With the announcement coming one day after the 42nd anniversary of the concerts themselves (I suspect because there's a policy of nothing on 24/11). So this doesn't obviously tie in to anything that's happening now...?
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Post by eiricd on Nov 30, 2023 9:01:19 GMT
restoration of SD footage has come a long way, and I'm amazed at how good fan-made films of old performances can look.
If official powers put money and effort behind it, I'm ALL for re-re-re releases of Wembley and Milton Keynes, in addition to any other 4:3 sourced video material.
4K of Montreal? Yes please. I'll be the first in line to buy the 8K when that day comes
Same goes for Budapest.
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Post by Dimitris on Nov 30, 2023 10:59:41 GMT
Montreal has been released about 5 times already, and the prospect of a further release gives you a good feeling??? I'm joking - as I said elsewhere, Montreal on a really big screen is an opportunity to be taken, and there's no other Freddie footage that can be endlessly rescanned into 8K, 16K as time goes on. But isn't the IMAX stuff actually taking place next year? With the announcement coming one day after the 42nd anniversary of the concerts themselves (I suspect because there's a policy of nothing on 24/11). So this doesn't obviously tie in to anything that's happening now...? I think Budapest is also filmed on 36mm. I dont remember Rainbow 74. |
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Post by eiricd on Nov 30, 2023 11:13:22 GMT
Montreal has been released about 5 times already, and the prospect of a further release gives you a good feeling??? I'm joking - as I said elsewhere, Montreal on a really big screen is an opportunity to be taken, and there's no other Freddie footage that can be endlessly rescanned into 8K, 16K as time goes on. But isn't the IMAX stuff actually taking place next year? With the announcement coming one day after the 42nd anniversary of the concerts themselves (I suspect because there's a policy of nothing on 24/11). So this doesn't obviously tie in to anything that's happening now...? I think Budapest is also filmed on 36mm. I dont remember Rainbow 74. Rainbow sadly not. I know Brian said it was at the time of the Montreal re-release, but he was mistaken. It was shot in SD, and at the time transfered to film for cinema use. Budapest is 35 mm, yes. But sadly they do not have the masters. What we have is a master-copy of the cinema cut |
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Post by mikusguitarius on Nov 30, 2023 16:08:46 GMT
The March Rainbow footage was shot on film... so maybe that's where the confusion lies.
But yeah.... Any Queen concerts shot on film such as Montreal and Budapest will look beautiful in 4K!! Lets hope for physical disc releases.
HOWEVER... please can they re-do the colour balance (timing). Montreal has yellow instead of white and Budapest has orange instead of red.
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Post by pg on Nov 30, 2023 19:52:42 GMT
I must confess I thought Montreal was already 4K, so I accept that correction.
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Post by jimmydean on Dec 2, 2023 5:11:22 GMT
But isn't the IMAX stuff actually taking place next year? With the announcement coming one day after the 42nd anniversary of the concerts themselves (I suspect because there's a policy of nothing on 24/11). So this doesn't obviously tie in to anything that's happening now...? In the greatest live series which seems to be how they are celebrating their 50th anniversary... we get the announcement of the IMAX show on the 42nd week coinciding with the 42nd anniversary. Week 50 of the anniversary is the same weekend the show will be playing in theaters - Jan 18. Surely this is not coincidence. hopefully this numbers game leads to a real announcement. |
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Post by manymilesaway on Dec 2, 2023 8:23:25 GMT
... Surely this is not coincidence. This just looks like a coincidence, I'm not gonna lie. |
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Post by pg on Dec 2, 2023 10:08:23 GMT
Ah, numerology. It's like when astrologers pretend to be scientists
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Post by jimmydean on Dec 20, 2023 1:21:10 GMT
... Surely this is not coincidence. This just looks like a coincidence, I'm not gonna lie. Agreed. Just like 39 being the 39th track released by the band! In any case, today’s announcement for a request of fans that were at the show to answer a questionnaire feels like a precursor to a collection of information such as photos etc. now I’m more confident that some type of release is around the corner! Could be nothing… but else would they ask? |
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Dec 20, 2023 7:36:35 GMT
This just looks like a coincidence, I'm not gonna lie. Agreed. Just like 39 being the 39th track released by the band! but it wasn't the 39th track released by the band, was it? It was actually the 40th track to appear on an official release. the "mystics" among the fans conveniently ignore "See What A Fool I've Been" because its existence as a 7" B-side release doesn't "fit" in with this theory. |
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Post by pg on Dec 20, 2023 8:24:51 GMT
This just looks like a coincidence, I'm not gonna lie. Agreed. Just like 39 being the 39th track released by the band! In any case, today’s announcement for a request of fans that were at the show to answer a questionnaire feels like a precursor to a collection of information such as photos etc. now I’m more confident that some type of release is around the corner! Could be nothing… but else would they ask? Does it HAVE to be a precursor? Can it not be a standalone thing? Can anything persuade you that a release is NOT around the corner? |
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Post by dragonkiller on Dec 20, 2023 12:40:13 GMT
Sky Arts is showing, Queen + AL at the Summer Sonic show on the 30th December at 10.50pm. It says "new" in the listing.
They could be releasing this as it was only released in the Japanese Market. I could also be 100% wrong.
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Post by Lord Fickle on Dec 20, 2023 12:48:51 GMT
I've got this set to record (or, I will have when it comes up on my Guide). I'm hoping it will be the full show, rather than just an hour of highlights.
Shame it's on Sky Arts and not Amazon, as it won't be HD and it'll just be standard stereo sound on Freeview.
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Post by eiricd on Dec 22, 2023 10:47:27 GMT
I've got this set to record (or, I will have when it comes up on my Guide). I'm hoping it will be the full show, rather than just an hour of highlights. Shame it's on Sky Arts and not Amazon, as it won't be HD and it'll just be standard stereo sound on Freeview. Full show is about 1hr15 if I remember correctly. It's really strange that they haven't done a complete concert film release. Live around the world is patchy, at best, and the london 22 gig was streaming for a week..... |
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Post by fabiogminero on Dec 24, 2023 20:26:55 GMT
Maybe it's already been said, but it's always better to say it again.
Given that in 2023 the album 'Queen' turned 50 and has not been celebrated in any way, it would be interesting if a nice box set was released in 2024 to celebrate its anniversary together with that of 'Queen II' (actually recorded for mostly in August 1973). A nice box set including new remastered editions of both albums would be fantastic, perhaps accompanied by a nice book of photographs of Douglas Puddifoot and Mick Rock and some bonus tracks from the early years of recording ('Polar Bear', outtakes from ' Keep Yourself Alive' or the first version of 'Mad The Swine' come to my mind). A box set similar to the ones The Beatles have been releasing since 2017 to put it simply. Would that be too much to ask? |
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Post by georg on Dec 24, 2023 22:00:30 GMT
Maybe it's already been said, but it's always better to say it again.
Given that in 2023 the album 'Queen' turned 50 and has not been celebrated in any way, it would be interesting if a nice box set was released in 2024 to celebrate its anniversary together with that of 'Queen II' (actually recorded for mostly in August 1973). A nice box set including new remastered editions of both albums would be fantastic, perhaps accompanied by a nice book of photographs of Douglas Puddifoot and Mick Rock and some bonus tracks from the early years of recording ('Polar Bear', outtakes from ' Keep Yourself Alive' or the first version of 'Mad The Swine' come to my mind). A box set similar to the ones The Beatles have been releasing since 2017 to put it simply. Would that be too much to ask? Sadly, yes. There’s no rhyme or reason to Queen’s back catalog reissues. They’ve been “celebrating” their 50th anniversary with YouTube clips over the past few years, and that seems to be about all the energy they can exert for that, so I don’t see anything happening next year. I’d love to be proven wrong but they obviously don’t care about anniversaries, so I’m not getting my hopes up. I’d recommend everyone temper their expectations, actually; I have a feeling 2024 is going to be a lot like 2023 regarding Queen’s release schedule. |
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Post by mikusguitarius on Dec 26, 2023 22:34:13 GMT
Didn't both Brian & Roger state they aren't into anniversaries per se so don't bother with them...?
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Post by manymilesaway on Dec 27, 2023 3:51:18 GMT
Didn't both Brian & Roger state they aren't into anniversaries per se so don't bother with them...? They're inconsistent with it. They sometimes give them importance, sometimes don't. Rainbow '74, Hammersmith '75, and the NOTW boxset/QAL 2017 tour were all intentionally themed for their respective anniversaries. Queen's 2011 remasters were made specifically for what they deemed the 40th anniversary, literally calling it Queen 40.  That said, they've also ignored significant anniversaries. Hyde Park '76, Earl's Court '77, Hammersmith '79, and most egregiously, Queen I. So... There's no definitive rule. Just ignore all logic, stuff will come when it comes I guess. |
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Dec 27, 2023 9:57:21 GMT
That said, they've also ignored significant anniversaries. Hyde Park '76, Earl's Court '77, Hammersmith '79, and most egregiously, Queen I. So... There's no definitive rule. Just ignore all logic, stuff will come when it comes I guess. while I agree with most of your point, I don't consider HP, EC or Hammy 79 as "significant anniversaries". They're gigs - yes, they're big gigs, but gigs all the same. Live Aid, Wembley 86, Rio etc - they were big gigs and (in the grand scheme of things) are logically more worthy of release/re-release etc Perhaps, before we lament too greatly the lack of "anniversary releases" of live gigs, we need some context: I don't see any "special anniversary" releases of the Stones' Hyde Park 69 or Zep's Earls Court 75 gigs. Far from it, with both gigs yet to receive any kind of official live LP/CD release. |
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Post by scotttmax on Dec 27, 2023 9:57:50 GMT
Didn't both Brian & Roger state they aren't into anniversaries per se so don't bother with them...? They're inconsistent with it. They sometimes give them importance, sometimes don't. Rainbow '74, Hammersmith '75, and the NOTW boxset/QAL 2017 tour were all intentionally themed for their respective anniversaries. Queen's 2011 remasters were made specifically for what they deemed the 40th anniversary, literally calling it Queen 40. That said, they've also ignored significant anniversaries. Hyde Park '76, Earl's Court '77, Hammersmith '79, and most egregiously, Queen I. So... There's no definitive rule. Just ignore all logic, stuff will come when it comes I guess. I think what us, the fans see as ‘significant’ events differ from the band? |
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Post by Dimitris on Dec 28, 2023 15:39:18 GMT
I don't know when their contract with universal music group expires.
Ten years ago they announced that they renewed it for a long term. Their first was three years and included the postponed Forever compilation.
If the contract is about to expire, we will have to wait about any future releases or projects.
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Post by pg on Dec 29, 2023 7:09:37 GMT
If the contract is about to expire, we will have to wait about any future releases or projects. Whereas, if the contract is NOT about to expire, we will have to wait anyway... |
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Post by manymilesaway on Dec 29, 2023 19:34:42 GMT
while I agree with most of your point, I don't consider HP, EC or Hammy 79 as "significant anniversaries". They're gigs - yes, they're big gigs, but gigs all the same. Live Aid, Wembley 86, Rio etc - they were big gigs and (in the grand scheme of things) are logically more worthy of release/re-release etc Perhaps, before we lament too greatly the lack of "anniversary releases" of live gigs, we need some context: I don't see any "special anniversary" releases of the Stones' Hyde Park 69 or Zep's Earls Court 75 gigs. Far from it, with both gigs yet to receive any kind of official live LP/CD release. I think what us, the fans see as ‘significant’ events differ from the band? I totally get what you're saying, but I gotta disagree there with atleast Hyde Park. The history of Queen wouldn't change much at all if they play at Houston for NOTW, or the Hammersmith Odeon on the Crazy Tour, but Hyde Park absolutely was a huge event for the band and one of the most significant things that they ever did in London in the '70s. If the TV Christmas special from 1975 was deemed important enough to get a full remaster + box set treatment, then a record-breaking 100,000+ concert definitely should be on that level of importance too. |
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Dec 29, 2023 22:06:02 GMT
while I agree with most of your point, I don't consider HP, EC or Hammy 79 as "significant anniversaries". They're gigs - yes, they're big gigs, but gigs all the same. Live Aid, Wembley 86, Rio etc - they were big gigs and (in the grand scheme of things) are logically more worthy of release/re-release etc Perhaps, before we lament too greatly the lack of "anniversary releases" of live gigs, we need some context: I don't see any "special anniversary" releases of the Stones' Hyde Park 69 or Zep's Earls Court 75 gigs. Far from it, with both gigs yet to receive any kind of official live LP/CD release. I think what us, the fans see as ‘significant’ events differ from the band? I totally get what you're saying, but I gotta disagree there with atleast Hyde Park. The history of Queen wouldn't change much at all if they play at Houston for NOTW, or the Hammersmith Odeon on the Crazy Tour, but Hyde Park absolutely was a huge event for the band and one of the most significant things that they ever did in London in the '70s. If the TV Christmas special from 1975 was deemed important enough to get a full remaster + box set treatment, then a record-breaking 100,000+ concert definitely should be on that level of importance too. i think Scottmax's more succinct reply nailed it. there's a million miles of difference between the "significance" of a Queen event to serious Queen fans and the complete lack of impact of that same event on the casual music fan. and this is the reason why Queen and Stones have not released their HP gigs and Queen and Zep have not released their EC gigs. Oh, and lest we forget: the huge following they have these days is in no small way attributable to AL. He's brought a whole new generation of fans to Queen's music - but it's hits and better known album cuts only. an EC or HP release would do nothing for these fans - Queen's time to release either of these concerts was in the early 90s when, a mass-market would've leapt at the chance to buy these as memories of the band with Freddie at the peak of their powers. these days it'd be a niche market - and an unprofitable one at that. |
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Post by eiricd on Dec 29, 2023 22:42:36 GMT
I totally get what you're saying, but I gotta disagree there with atleast Hyde Park. The history of Queen wouldn't change much at all if they play at Houston for NOTW, or the Hammersmith Odeon on the Crazy Tour, but Hyde Park absolutely was a huge event for the band and one of the most significant things that they ever did in London in the '70s. If the TV Christmas special from 1975 was deemed important enough to get a full remaster + box set treatment, then a record-breaking 100,000+ concert definitely should be on that level of importance too. i think Scottmax's more succinct reply nailed it. there's a million miles of difference between the "significance" of a Queen event to serious Queen fans and the complete lack of impact of that same event on the casual music fan. and this is the reason why Queen and Stones have not released their HP gigs and Queen and Zep have not released their EC gigs. Oh, and lest we forget: the huge following they have these days is in no small way attributable to AL. He's brought a whole new generation of fans to Queen's music - but it's hits and better known album cuts only. an EC or HP release would do nothing for these fans - Queen's time to release either of these concerts was in the early 90s when, a mass-market would've leapt at the chance to buy these as memories of the band with Freddie at the peak of their powers. these days it'd be a niche market - and an unprofitable one at that. |
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Post by eiricd on Dec 29, 2023 22:43:59 GMT
while you make some good points, you're way off the mark regarding lambert. he's responsible for the huge following these days? do you really think the arenas are filling up cause people can't wait to see lambert?
people go to see the brand, and the remains of what was Queen. and they are rewarded with a greatest hits set list, most of which where squeezed into the bio pic most of the world went to see and where they were reminded of what great songs they are.
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Post by georg on Dec 29, 2023 22:55:51 GMT
while you make some good points, you're way off the mark regarding lambert. he's responsible for the huge following these days? do you really think the arenas are filling up cause people can't wait to see lambert? people go to see the brand, and the remains of what was Queen. and they are rewarded with a greatest hits set list, most of which where squeezed into the bio pic most of the world went to see and where they were reminded of what great songs they are. Brenski didn’t say he was responsible, but Adam is definitely a big part of why. Think about it – Paul Rodgers didn’t exactly get asses in seats (and I’m a fan of his), but Adam’s fanbase definitely skews younger, and they are fairly rabid, at least what I’ve seen elsewhere. There are several reasons why Queen is more popular these days, especially in the US, than they have been since Wayne’s World, and Adam is one of those reasons. The biopic is another one, yes, but that was in development hell for years before it finally gained steam, and it’s no coincidence that it started to do so around when Adam was brought on. Look, I get it, Adam isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, but there’s no denying that having a (relatively — he’s my age, which, holy shit) young singer has done wonders for Queen’s brand. Absolutely Brian and Roger should be commended for keeping the flag flying, but Adam is part of the equation for their success. The songs are great, yeah, no denying that, but if Paul was still the singer, or if Brian and Roger had gone their separate ways in 2009 and never hooked up with Adam, I don’t think Queen would be as popular these days as they are. |
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Dec 29, 2023 22:56:25 GMT
while you make some good points, you're way off the mark regarding lambert. he's responsible for the huge following these days? do you really think the arenas are filling up cause people can't wait to see lambert? people go to see the brand, and the remains of what was Queen. and they are rewarded with a greatest hits set list, most of which where squeezed into the bio pic most of the world went to see and where they were reminded of what great songs they are. i think you've misquoted me. I have not said AL is a huge part of the reason, I said "the huge following they have these days is in no small way attributable to AL." I'm not saying he's solely responsible for the huge following, i'm saying that his contribution is significant enough that it should NOT be discounted - he's the "right fit" for Brian and Roger and he has contributed significanrtly with taking the music to the next generation. I don't like him, but i can't ignore that millions of others do like him. |
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Post by georg on Dec 29, 2023 23:01:01 GMT
I also think the only way we’ll ever get Earls Court, Hyde Park, and Hammersmith would be paired with archival releases of the respective albums, and considering we didn’t get Houston with the News of the World Collectors Edition, I can’t see Earls Court or Hyde Park being added to a (hypothetical) Races reissue, or Hammersmith to a (hypothetical) Game reissue.
THAT BEING SAID, the Queen social media accounts have announced the Freddie Mercury party already for September, and they explicitly said they’re celebrating The Works in 2024 — not a peep about Sheer Heart Attack, and I don’t remember previous announcements mentioning any specific albums. I’m not saying there’ll be any kind of archival release, and I’m not remotely getting my hopes up, but I do find that interesting.
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