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Post by manymilesaway on Jan 8, 2024 1:10:00 GMT
IMHO the European leg of The Works tour in 1984 was so much better than the 1985 part. I'd certainly prefer one of those shows to be released, but all of us here know better than to have high hopes. The Japanese leg is definitely better than the European leg, much tighter all around.
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Post by donovan on Jan 8, 2024 1:14:14 GMT
Jesus, no! Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
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Post by leighburne on Jan 8, 2024 7:04:45 GMT
No one predicted the Miracle box We knew the Miracle box set was on the way for about four years. Everyone predicted it.
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Post by The Real Wizard on Jan 10, 2024 19:47:37 GMT
IMHO the European leg of The Works tour in 1984 was so much better than the 1985 part. I'd certainly prefer one of those shows to be released, but all of us here know better than to have high hopes. The Japanese leg is definitely better than the European leg, much tighter all around. Indeed, but to me that makes it feel like they're phoning it in a bit. It was a period of low ebb for them, to the point that Brian had even forgotten that they'd played It's A Hard Life on stage at all. If it wasn't for Spike Edney running into Bob Geldof at the right time, those may well have been Queen's last shows ever. I feel like the '84 shows have a bit more energy to them, because they were happy to be back on the road, at least for the first couple weeks. And of course there's the extra songs that were cut by Rio.
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Post by manymilesaway on Jan 10, 2024 20:05:15 GMT
No one predicted the Miracle box (that came out for the 33rd anniversary) so i think that QPL don't care anymore about dates, they stopped in 2017 with NOTW. The Movie changed everything, every plan. The only anniversaries they respected were those of the picture discs (Game, Gordon) or Greatest Hits... They'd been doing teases of Miracle stuff for a really long time before that. I think pretty much everybody in my circles (namely The Queen Discord) knew it was coming eventually. My personal theory? Brian and Roger decided to turn Face It Alone from one of the unfinished demos into a complete single, which meant delaying the boxset. Then, COVID prevented Brian and Roger from recording in a studio. That's why The Miracle boxset took so long. Again, just my theory but it'd make sense with the timeline we have. On that note, I really think they chose the wrong song to finish. I Guess We're Falling Out seems to be the fan favourite from what I've seen. My personal favourite, too. Face It Alone honestly sucks.
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Post by davis_taylor.1984 on Jan 10, 2024 22:06:36 GMT
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Post by gambaaaa on Jan 10, 2024 22:14:49 GMT
No one predicted the Miracle box (that came out for the 33rd anniversary) so i think that QPL don't care anymore about dates, they stopped in 2017 with NOTW. The Movie changed everything, every plan. The only anniversaries they respected were those of the picture discs (Game, Gordon) or Greatest Hits... They'd been doing teases of Miracle stuff for a really long time before that. I think pretty much everybody in my circles (namely The Queen Discord) knew it was coming eventually. My personal theory? Brian and Roger decided to turn Face It Alone from one of the unfinished demos into a complete single, which meant delaying the boxset. Then, COVID prevented Brian and Roger from recording in a studio. That's why The Miracle boxset took so long. Again, just my theory but it'd make sense with the timeline we have. On that note, I really think they chose the wrong song to finish. I Guess We're Falling Out seems to be the fan favourite from what I've seen. My personal favourite, too. Face It Alone honestly sucks. My tinfoil hat theory is that they tried to ride the "new undiscovered song made by a dead artist" wave by editing and stitching horribly together bits of a song that was already circulating for 10 years, but that's my cynical point of view. To be honest I never liked FIA that much, I prefer the instrumental guitar demo more, but despite all the work (and the horrible pitch correction) they put in the single it still sounds like a unfinished song, meanwhile IGWFO despite being a demo sounds more developed and "complete", so to speak.
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Post by jimmydean on Jan 11, 2024 5:28:14 GMT
if we don't get an AI cleaned up version of studio Hangman on this supposed 51st anniversary release of their 1st album.... we never will.
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Post by jimmydean on Jan 11, 2024 5:31:42 GMT
Jesus, no! Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. And yet you name drop the 9th track of the 1st album! You never know... some day... one day... that box may indeed come to light.
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Post by donovan on Jan 11, 2024 12:35:25 GMT
And yet you name drop the 9th track of the 1st album! You never know... some day... one day... that box may indeed come to light.
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Post by tivertonqueen on Jan 14, 2024 9:31:33 GMT
The next release should be the updated version of LIVE Killers in my opinion. With all the missed out songs. This could be a great package. It probably wont be the next though.
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Post by manymilesaway on Jan 14, 2024 10:03:20 GMT
The next release should be the updated version of LIVE Killers in my opinion. With all the missed out songs. This could be a great package. It probably wont be the next though. If it's something live, I'd rather see something from a better tour. Would much rather see a Hammersmith '79 release with soundboard bonuses of Fat Bottomed Girls and Liar from other shows in the Crazy Tour.
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Post by leighburne on Jan 14, 2024 12:49:43 GMT
Thin Lizzy recently put out a box set of their Live and Dangerous album consisting of the album plus the seven shows they recorded to make it, sans the overdubs and edits made for the original album.
It’s a pie in the sky dream, but something like that from Queen for Live Killers would be immense.
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Post by vh on Jan 14, 2024 13:39:47 GMT
Thin Lizzy recently put out a box set of their Live and Dangerous album consisting of the album plus the seven shows they recorded to make it, sans the overdubs and edits made for the original album. It’s a pie in the sky dream, but something like that from Queen for Live Killers would be immense. Live Killers is long overdue a rerelease/box set. It would be brilliant to get a Live And Dangerous type of release but in all honesty we’ll be lucky to get a remixed release of the original album with no extra tracks!
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Post by fcb101 on Jan 14, 2024 15:51:43 GMT
The next release should be the updated version of LIVE Killers in my opinion. With all the missed out songs. This could be a great package. It probably wont be the next though. If it's something live, I'd rather see something from a better tour. Would much rather see a Hammersmith '79 release with soundboard bonuses of Fat Bottomed Girls and Liar from other shows in the Crazy Tour. They should just release a huge Queen live in 1979 box with several dvd's and a lot of audio (several Live Killers shows AND several Crazy tour shows, all complete shows). While Freddie wasn't in elite vocal shape during the Live Killers tour, I still consider it one of the best tours in their history. The shows were so rocky and energetic. Brian - Roger - John never sounded better and more exciting together.
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Post by eiricd on Jan 15, 2024 12:28:47 GMT
Thin Lizzy recently put out a box set of their Live and Dangerous album consisting of the album plus the seven shows they recorded to make it, sans the overdubs and edits made for the original album. It’s a pie in the sky dream, but something like that from Queen for Live Killers would be immense. the Thin Lizzy camp is on a roll. The last few years have seen a number of great archive releases. QPL should take note
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Post by leighburne on Jan 15, 2024 13:03:28 GMT
the Thin Lizzy camp is on a roll. The last few years have seen a number of great archive releases. QPL should take note They really have been knocking it out of the park over the last few years. The Rock Legends set (when we finally got it!) was a goldmine, the Sydney concert with Gary was a genuine holy grail release of mine and the L&D box set was magnificent, and that’s despite my initial reservations over whether I needed multiple copies of broadly similar shows (I did). Even the last box for Vagabonds of the Western World, which I passed on because there just wasn’t enough new material that interested me, looked like a solid set - it was only let down by the fact they’ve had so many other stellar releases that included most of the material already (and the fact I’ve personally no interest in or need of surround mixes).
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Post by BrƎИsꓘi on Jan 15, 2024 13:09:56 GMT
Thin Lizzy recently put out a box set of their Live and Dangerous album consisting of the album plus the seven shows they recorded to make it, sans the overdubs and edits made for the original album. It’s a pie in the sky dream, but something like that from Queen for Live Killers would be immense. the Thin Lizzy camp is on a roll. The last few years have seen a number of great archive releases. QPL should take note the Lizzy camp has the added motivation of L&D being consistently polled as one of the greatest live albums of all time. When your "live" offering ranks amongst Frampton Comes Alive, Made In Japan, Live In Leeds, Cheap trick Budokan and the Last Waltz then there's something to be gained from the exercise. Queen's Live Killers has never really ranked that highly (Queen fans excepted).
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Post by Raf on Jan 15, 2024 17:29:46 GMT
If they’re gonna do a Works set I’d rather they threw in the full Rock in Rio. Even better! The opening Brussels night with what available footage from that night they have (as confirmed by Rhys Thomas) synced with audio and full CD release of that gig. That would be a real killer. Freddie was in amazing shape that night. Wasn't it speculated (firstly confirmed but later denied) that all the UK shows from The Works tour had been recorded ? I suppose at some point they will release Rio. I don't think it comes down to which concert sounded better, it's about flexing. 40 years later people still talk about the huge audience, about Love Of My Life sung by everyone being a high point both in their career (I suppose they forgot about their own tour less than 4 years to the same continent...?) and in Rock in Rio's story, and so on. Most concerts they've released were broadcasted on TV back in the day, and the couple that weren't (Rainbow and Hammersmith) were actually shown in cinemas. I guess they really make a big deal about these things. Both Rio nights were broadcasted on TV. I'd bet they'd include snippets from other Works concerts (I'd bet higher on Japan, as it was already released...) as DVD/Blu-Ray bonuses, and I wouldn't completely rule out the possibility of including QAL videos too, as they played RiR both in Rio (on the festival's 30th anniversary!) and Lisbon. Although they've never mixed old Queen stuff and QAL stuff on the same release, there's some storytelling there to validate it, plus the appeal to sell the set both to old fans like we all and to the new and younger fans who are having their first Queen experiences through QAL.
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Post by eiricd on Jan 15, 2024 19:20:54 GMT
they don't have that much left, that we know of 100%
I imagine Rio is an obvious one. Both nights, complete, would be great (ala Wembley 2011 edition)
Tokyo 85 is another one, if they have the rights etc, that could sound and look really good if they worked on it
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Post by eiricd on Jan 15, 2024 19:23:09 GMT
the Thin Lizzy camp is on a roll. The last few years have seen a number of great archive releases. QPL should take note They really have been knocking it out of the park over the last few years. The Rock Legends set (when we finally got it!) was a goldmine, the Sydney concert with Gary was a genuine holy grail release of mine and the L&D box set was magnificent, and that’s despite my initial reservations over whether I needed multiple copies of broadly similar shows (I did). Even the last box for Vagabonds of the Western World, which I passed on because there just wasn’t enough new material that interested me, looked like a solid set - it was only let down by the fact they’ve had so many other stellar releases that included most of the material already (and the fact I’ve personally no interest in or need of surround mixes). all great releases. the bbc box set, too, was a brilliant one. I opted for the stand alone blu ray of Vagabonds....even there; a high res 5.1 of a studio album. I've been waiting 20 + years for Queen to follow up Opera / The Game in surround......
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Post by leighburne on Jan 15, 2024 19:29:08 GMT
the bbc box set, too, was a brilliant one. And before that, the deluxe/expanded reissues of all their studio albums. The first salvo was a bit underwhelming, but most of those were loaded with fantastic bonus material. It really has been a great ten years or so to be a Lizzy fan.
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Post by eiricd on Jan 15, 2024 20:08:38 GMT
the bbc box set, too, was a brilliant one. And before that, the deluxe/expanded reissues of all their studio albums. The first salvo was a bit underwhelming, but most of those were loaded with fantastic bonus material. It really has been a great ten years or so to be a Lizzy fan. agree 110%. almost forgot about the 2cd deluxe editions. Some of them with great great content. I wonder what else is coming - I hope Vagabonds...is the first in a series of forthcoming surround releases. If they can do Vagabonds, surely they can do Jailbreak and some of the other bigger albums
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Post by kristinaz91 on Jan 16, 2024 8:03:56 GMT
Anyone notice they suddenly privatized some of their official videos from the 75 Odeon show on their youtube page including White Queen which we all know is off Queen II hmmm wonder if that's another sign.
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Post by pg on Jan 16, 2024 16:32:37 GMT
Anyone notice they suddenly privatized some of their official videos from the 75 Odeon show on their youtube page including White Queen which we all know is off Queen II hmmm wonder if that's another sign. Purely out of curiosity, given that your trigger applies equally to four albums, why have you picked that one to extrapolate to? Edit -five albums - maybe Live At The Odeon ITSELF is getting an anniversary release - 9 is a nice round number, after all....
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Post by leighburne on Jan 16, 2024 18:07:21 GMT
I wonder what else is coming - I hope Vagabonds...is the first in a series of forthcoming surround releases. If they can do Vagabonds, surely they can do Jailbreak and some of the other bigger albums I have heard rumblings that more archival releases are on the way, no idea what they might be though!
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Post by bruceymc on Jan 16, 2024 18:50:46 GMT
Anyone notice they suddenly privatized some of their official videos from the 75 Odeon show on their youtube page including White Queen which we all know is off Queen II hmmm wonder if that's another sign. Purely out of curiosity, given that your trigger applies equally to four albums, why have you picked that one to extrapolate to? Edit -five albums - maybe Live At The Odeon ITSELF is getting an anniversary release - 9 is a nice round number, after all.... Are the balloons out of print?
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Post by manymilesaway on Jan 16, 2024 23:54:29 GMT
Anyone notice they suddenly privatized some of their official videos from the 75 Odeon show on their youtube page including White Queen which we all know is off Queen II hmmm wonder if that's another sign. I envy your optimism.
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Post by kristinaz91 on Jan 17, 2024 2:17:36 GMT
Anyone notice they suddenly privatized some of their official videos from the 75 Odeon show on their youtube page including White Queen which we all know is off Queen II hmmm wonder if that's another sign. Purely out of curiosity, given that your trigger applies equally to four albums, why have you picked that one to extrapolate to? Edit -five albums - maybe Live At The Odeon ITSELF is getting an anniversary release - 9 is a nice round number, after all.... Anyone notice they suddenly privatized some of their official videos from the 75 Odeon show on their youtube page including White Queen which we all know is off Queen II hmmm wonder if that's another sign. I envy your optimism. Honestly I'm not optimistic nor did I choose that specific album for a reason just kinda weird suddenly after all these years stuff from Rainbow and Odeon videos go private on their page. Though this is QPL I expect ziltch from them at this point. I expect this more a coincidence rather then anything concrete. I've just decided that QPL don't really make any sort of sense in their decision making that way I don't expect anything and am not let down by them.
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Post by donovan on Jan 17, 2024 4:32:01 GMT
I wonder what else is coming - I hope Vagabonds...is the first in a series of forthcoming surround releases. If they can do Vagabonds, surely they can do Jailbreak and some of the other bigger albums I have heard rumblings that more archival releases are on the way, no idea what they might be though! I'd be willing to bet 2 out of three of the sources for those rumbiings are this very board. We've become an ourobourus.
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